Scrapping for parts

fezzball · 05-January-03, 02:05 PM

I'm attempting to build a new system, but I don't have the money for all new parts. So I'm going through my dell 8100 and trying to figure out what I can take with me to the new system. Obviously I need a new MOBO, case, and PSU. However, I was wondering if it's possible to take the p4 chip out of my current mobo and use it in my new one. I've looked around to see if this is possible and I haven't been able to find any information, which leads me to belive it actually isn't possible. I just wanted to ask some people who knew what they were talking about.

BigAkita · 05-January-03, 02:35 PM

Yes, you can use the chip.

vladimir · 05-January-03, 02:42 PM

so u jsut upgrading the mobo?

fezzball · 05-January-03, 02:44 PM

Yes, the mobo, the case, the psu and then eventually the video card and the get some more things. How dangerous or difficult is it to take out the chip? Is there a how-to you could send me to?

BigAkita · 05-January-03, 02:51 PM

OK Clown, as you wish. I will step aside and let you handle this one yourself. No need to ask me anymore.

vladimir · 05-January-03, 03:00 PM

ok ba wutever u say

fezzball, i really dont see y u would want to upgrade the case, the mbo and psu....ur upgrading things that wont give you any performace gain

since u deff wont oc or anything, ull gain more performance by getting more ram, better video, and a faster processor

ungarmax · 05-January-03, 03:29 PM

on a quick note.... you may want to determine that he does thave the 478 pin cpu, if not he might have the old 423, and therefore ud need to know that. Just a thought.

fezzball · 05-January-03, 04:25 PM

That's a good point. I have no idea if I have the 478 or not. How can I tell?

CannibalPUnxter · 05-January-03, 04:27 PM

might as well build a new one

putwig · 05-January-03, 04:31 PM

478 will have 512 L2 cache.

423 will have 256 L2 cache

Darksamurai · 05-January-03, 04:53 PM

Fezz, strippin' out your 8200, if you have a stand alone graphics, sound, modem, or network cards, you should be able to strip all of 'em and just replace 'em as you can with faster parts (the modem and NIC shouldn't need upgraded). If everything is integrated, I have a feelin' you might be better stayin' with the 8200 until you can afford the change-over!

HoJo · 05-January-03, 05:13 PM

I don't know as much as a lot of these guys but I would have to agree that you would be better off waiting and building a whole new system when you can afford it.

scapegoat · 05-January-03, 06:17 PM

Quote:


	That's a good point. I have no idea if I have the 478 or not. How can I tell

You can count the pins

Its really easy to tell the diffrence 478 on the left and 423 on the right.

As for upgrading your system......it depends on the speed of your CPU, if you happy with what you got, defintly use your current CPU......You can of course scrap your Drives and you HD, although you need to do a fresh format of your drive and a reinstall of Windoze when you get all your new hardware togther, otherwise you are just asking for trouble

And remeber Dell's use the propriatary PSU and mobo's....so if you are gonna upgrade one youve got to do both, try plugging in a Dell PSU to a new mobo and youall have some crispy critters(and vise-versa).

Cyphre · 05-January-03, 11:27 PM

And even if you can't tell the difference after the fact, the socket itself will usually denote 423 or 478 right on it. Altogether you could build a new system for not too much money. I say wait. I'm waiting myself for better components to come out before I build...and by that time, prices will have dropped.

And putwig, I have a socket 478 willamette and it has 256 L2 cache

putwig · 06-January-03, 12:12 AM

Cyphre you are right! I stand corrected.

05-January-03, 02:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
fezzball Apex Techie Wannabe Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 7	Scrapping for parts I'm attempting to build a new system, but I don't have the money for all new parts. So I'm going through my dell 8100 and trying to figure out what I can take with me to the new system. Obviously I need a new MOBO, case, and PSU. However, I was wondering if it's possible to take the p4 chip out of my current mobo and use it in my new one. I've looked around to see if this is possible and I haven't been able to find any information, which leads me to belive it actually isn't possible. I just wanted to ask some people who knew what they were talking about.

05-January-03, 02:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 14,314	Yes, you can use the chip. __________________ "I'll stop being an A-Hole if you will stop being an Idiot."

05-January-03, 02:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 14,314	OK Clown, as you wish. I will step aside and let you handle this one yourself. No need to ask me anymore. __________________ "I'll stop being an A-Hole if you will stop being an Idiot."

05-January-03, 03:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
ungarmax Apex Master Tech Apprentice Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 289	on a quick note.... you may want to determine that he does thave the 478 pin cpu, if not he might have the old 423, and therefore ud need to know that. Just a thought. __________________

05-January-03, 04:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
CannibalPUnxter Apex Advanced Techie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: califonia, los angeles Posts: 156	might as well build a new one __________________ All I know is I don't know nothing.

05-January-03, 02:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
vladimir Pimp PHP Pro Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,329	so u jsut upgrading the mobo?

05-January-03, 02:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
fezzball Apex Techie Wannabe Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 7	Yes, the mobo, the case, the psu and then eventually the video card and the get some more things. How dangerous or difficult is it to take out the chip? Is there a how-to you could send me to?

05-January-03, 03:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
vladimir Pimp PHP Pro Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,329	ok ba wutever u say fezzball, i really dont see y u would want to upgrade the case, the mbo and psu....ur upgrading things that wont give you any performace gain since u deff wont oc or anything, ull gain more performance by getting more ram, better video, and a faster processor

05-January-03, 04:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
fezzball Apex Techie Wannabe Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 7	That's a good point. I have no idea if I have the 478 or not. How can I tell?

05-January-03, 04:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
putwig Dr. Hydro Pimp Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,198	478 will have 512 L2 cache. 423 will have 256 L2 cache __________________

05-January-03, 04:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
Darksamurai Sam-Hoe-rai N-Hoe-mad Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Helena, MT Posts: 5,976	Fezz, strippin' out your 8200, if you have a stand alone graphics, sound, modem, or network cards, you should be able to strip all of 'em and just replace 'em as you can with faster parts (the modem and NIC shouldn't need upgraded). If everything is integrated, I have a feelin' you might be better stayin' with the 8200 until you can afford the change-over! __________________ “A good traveler has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving.” - Lao Tzu Last edited by Darksamurai; 05-January-03 at 05:19 PM.

05-January-03, 05:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
HoJo Review Pimp, but still Jo's Ho Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Most modded city in the world Posts: 4,136	I don't know as much as a lot of these guys but I would have to agree that you would be better off waiting and building a whole new system when you can afford it. __________________

05-January-03, 11:27 PM	#14 (permalink)
Cyphre Apex Tech Maniac Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 899	And even if you can't tell the difference after the fact, the socket itself will usually denote 423 or 478 right on it. Altogether you could build a new system for not too much money. I say wait. I'm waiting myself for better components to come out before I build...and by that time, prices will have dropped. And putwig, I have a socket 478 willamette and it has 256 L2 cache __________________ P4C800-E Deluxe, 3.0C, 1gb XMS PC3200 TwinX, 150gb WD Raptor SATA, 7800GS New hotness: P5Q Pro, E8500, 4gb Corsair PC2 6400 DDR2, 9800GTX, Seagate 250Gb SATA2 cipher 2. One who, or that which, has no weight or influence. "Here he was a mere cipher." --W. Irving. Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, Â© 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc

06-January-03, 12:12 AM	#15 (permalink)
putwig Dr. Hydro Pimp Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,198	Cyphre you are right! I stand corrected. __________________

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