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Old 01-March-07, 05:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok i just installed windows vista on my system and its running fine but its only reading my cpu speed as 2.55Ghz? So i down load cpu Z and its only reading my E6400 That i got overclocked 8x425 , Its reading 6x425?? Whats going on here? In the bios it says 8x425? I have the newest bios F10 on my ds3? Can anyone help me here why this is doing this? I dont think its just vista and cpu z, Something is wrong, AND im running 4x 1 gig sticks of the same Gskill memory, And its only reading 3.5Gb in vista, I thought vista was made to run like 32Gb? Its reading the same is Xp did.. Hummm





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Old 01-March-07, 06:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hmmmm, my Vista overclocks fine. Have you checked on a bios update. I would
check out your mobo forum and see if anyone else is having problems. Have you
tried clearing the Bios and just readjusting all your settings?
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Old 01-March-07, 06:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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[font=Courier New][size=2]AND im running 4x 1 gig sticks of the same Gskill memory, And its only reading 3.5Gb in vista, I thought vista was made to run like 32Gb? Its reading the same is Xp did.. Hummm

I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere Vista reserves some RAM for the OS, so that should be why it's not showing the full amount.
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Old 01-March-07, 06:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm running 2x1GB and Vista is showing all my ram.
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Old 01-March-07, 06:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm running 2x1GB and Vista is showing all my ram.

Yeah, same here. This only occurs when the user is running 4GB of RAM. It's something do with Vista allocating memory to your hardware.

EDIT: Here's the technical explanation...

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The user-mode virtual address space can have any value between 2048 (2 GB) and 3072 (3 GB) megabytes in decimal notation. Windows uses the remaining address space (4 GB minus the specified amount) as its kernel-mode address space.

In other words - the system can only use 3GB MAX of application space (what the system info screen reports). The other 1GB is used by the KERNEL for drivers, etc.

P.S. Cheers for the +rep Slay.

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Old 01-March-07, 06:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Learn something new everyday :-)
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Old 01-March-07, 09:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Ok well i figed something out, Its droping my multi down at idel? Like a laptop or something so it saves batt life? Whats up with that?



And yeah thanks for that info too, ++Rep to you!
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Old 01-March-07, 09:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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It's called Intel Speedstep, same technology they use in laptops. Has been around for ages, nothing new here...

Same as with AMD and their Cool And Quiet stuff.
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Old 01-March-07, 10:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Yes i understand what it is bro, But it never did this before? Since ive up the FSB so much when it drops the multi, It still dont lower it enough and when it cuts power down to 1.003V Vcore it gets VERY unstable, How do i shut this off?? Its never done this in XP so im lost!




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Old 01-March-07, 11:01 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Yes i understand what it is bro, But it never did this before? Since ive up the FSB so much when it drops the multi, It still dont lower it enough and when it cuts power down to 1.003V Vcore it gets VERY unstable, How do i shut this off?? Its never done this in XP so im lost!




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It does do it in XP, if you have the power management settings in the control panel setup to do so. Go into Vista's power management (Which I'm no so familiar with as I do not run Vista anymore) and change the setting to "Always On" or something like that, then adjust the settings for your monitor and such manually.

EDIT: I've played around with your board before, isn't there an option (I seem to recall there is) to disable "EIST" or Speedstep in the BIOS?
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Old 02-March-07, 01:38 AM   #11 (permalink)
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It does do it in XP, if you have the power management settings in the control panel setup to do so. Go into Vista's power management (Which I'm no so familiar with as I do not run Vista anymore) and change the setting to "Always On" or something like that, then adjust the settings for your monitor and such manually.

EDIT: I've played around with your board before, isn't there an option (I seem to recall there is) to disable "EIST" or Speedstep in the BIOS?





This may sound funny, But its 1000% true, Since upgrading to vista my temps dropped almost 8c, Ideal temp is 22c now and load is only around 26c.


When running Xp it was 27c ideal and 32 load!




I dont know if its the EIST or speedstep or what? But its cool, Maybe because my vidcard isnt overclocked right now i dont know? But i like it


Vista is running really nice, Got everything up and running nice!


No drivers problems but the keyboard issue with my G15,


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Ds3
E6400 @ 3.4Ghz
4Gb ram, 4x1Gb stick of matching Gskill 2gbhk running at 4-4-3-5 425Mhz
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Old 02-March-07, 02:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
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You didn't even say whether or not you fixed your problem. But anyways...

EIST (Enchanced Intel Speedstep Technology) is the same thing as Speedstep. As far as seeing a drop in temps, of course, when the userspace module in the OS tells it to drop the multiplier it will also tell it to drop the vcore accordingly, which will of course drop temps and reduce power consumption.
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Old 02-March-07, 05:33 AM   #13 (permalink)
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It's the new version of CPU-Z. It does it to me aswell, when none of the other ones did. Not a Vista thing.
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Old 02-March-07, 10:41 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Ok i just installed windows vista on my system and its running fine but its only reading my cpu speed as 2.55Ghz? So i down load cpu Z and its only reading my E6400 That i got overclocked 8x425 , Its reading 6x425?? Whats going on here? In the bios it says 8x425? I have the newest bios F10 on my ds3? Can anyone help me here why this is doing this? I dont think its just vista and cpu z, Something is wrong, AND im running 4x 1 gig sticks of the same Gskill memory, And its only reading 3.5Gb in vista, I thought vista was made to run like 32Gb? Its reading the same is Xp did.. Hummm





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My Bios got one option >Mem Remap (4G Ram Support)< so you may have a simillar option in your bios?

but i think it will change nothing in your case because if you use the 32bit version of vista you'll be stock with the 3.5 gb barrier just like in xp , to get 4gb or more you'll have to use the 64bit version of Vista.
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Old 02-March-07, 01:36 PM   #15 (permalink)
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My Bios got one option >Mem Remap (4G Ram Support)< so you may have a simillar option in your bios?

but i think it will change nothing in your case because if you use the 32bit version of vista you'll be stock with the 3.5 gb barrier just like in xp , to get 4gb or more you'll have to use the 64bit version of Vista.


Actaully it goes a little further than that... The 32bit version can ADDRESS up to 4 GB or memory. This not only includes sytem RAM but your video cards RAM as well. All RAM needs to be address before it can be used. So if you have 4 GB of system ram and a video card with 256 MB of ram, you are going to see only 3.5 to 3.75 GB or system RAM being recognized by your OS.... I say between 3.5 and 3.75 becuase other devices may have addressing needs as well.
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Old 02-March-07, 02:43 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Actaully it goes a little further than that... The 32bit version can ADDRESS up to 4 GB or memory. This not only includes sytem RAM but your video cards RAM as well. All RAM needs to be address before it can be used. So if you have 4 GB of system ram and a video card with 256 MB of ram, you are going to see only 3.5 to 3.75 GB or system RAM being recognized by your OS.... I say between 3.5 and 3.75 becuase other devices may have addressing needs as well.



Well i have 4Gb of ram and 640Mb vid card! And its only showing 3.5Gb in vista, Does anyone know were i can get some tweeks, Like what i can and cant shut down and stuff that i dont need to be running like in XP?



Even on a fresh install i have almost 40 things running, When i was running xp after tweeking i would be running around 10




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Old 02-March-07, 04:33 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Here's a short list of some of the services you can disable if not needed in Vista.

1. Run services.msc via the Run command (Win key +R).
2. Stop the following services and change their start-up type to disabled

- Computer browser (if not connected to LAN)
- Fax (if not using printer and fax)
- Windows Error Reporting Service
- Secondary logon
- Tablet PC Input service
- Print spooler (if not using printer and fax)
- Windows time
- Media center receiver service (May cause problems)
- Security center
- Routing and remote access (if not connected to LAN)
- Internet connection sharing
- TCP/IP NetBios helper
- Server (if not sharing resources through LAN)
- Offline files

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