Is it posible to convert a stocky HS to water? i was thinking iv using the old socket A stocky for the conversion, but i ran into a problem: If i was to use the fins for channels, but the clip cuts through them, and makes it almost unplasable, unless i make it into 2 sections.
the other idea was to slice the fins off and then create channels along the base then seal it up with silicon, plexy & screws, but i may not have the tools for that.
the last idea was the try and save up for a waterblock, but even $50 for one off ebay is a harsh cut to me...
and for all that dont know, im aussie based, so the cost of products is about 1.2 to 1.5 times then in amarica.

So if anyone has any ideas in how to mod the HS, please tell...


ps: sorry for this, if it is, been in the wrong thread area mods.

Quote: Originally Posted by MaximusPsychosis Is it posible to convert a stocky HS to water?

Well, not having done this myself, I will say that it is technically possible.

HOWEVER, with the pressure that the waterblock will be under, I think it would be very difficult to make a "modded" HS water tight.

Make sure you run the block under pressure for a number of hours before installing on your mobo.

You note that money is a problem, even if you did build one you would still need a pump and a radiator at the least to make it work and they also cost money.

Quote: Originally Posted by IcEMage You note that money is a problem, even if you did build one you would still need a pump and a radiator at the least to make it work and they also cost money.

If you are looking for a cheaper option than WC but with the performance... check this out.
PCApex.com - Vigor Monsoon II CPU Cooler

and save save save... IMO is better to spend a bit more on something you are happy with, than something that bugs the crap out of you everytime you look at it.

Even if you could "Get er' done' with the methods you mentioned, ther eis a good chance you could end up with a leaky mess.

Todays modern air coolers are nearly a match for watercooling, while still being pretty damn quiet...so unless you are after extreme OC's or dead silence, there are better options out there for you.

I have a CPU waterblock collecting dust I could probably let go pretty cheap, I just wonder how much shipping woud be.

Te other things you need can be found locally, a cars heater core from a small car wil owrk if you modify the connectors, look for one that doesnt cost more then 25$ usd.

I fish tank aquarium pump with 1/2 fittings will work with the waterblock I have.

We may be even able to scrounge up an inexpensive semi, or complete kit (Digital World and I) from his leftovers...but you should out about shipping first..it may make the cost unreasonable...im guesing it shouldn't weigh more than 2-3lbs.

I also have a swiftech radiator that I could sell you for cheap and also some fans for it if you really need them. It is a 120x2 radiator from one of their older kits.

Quote: Originally Posted by IcEMage I also have a swiftech radiator that I could sell you for cheap and also some fans for it if you really need them. It is a 120x2 radiator from one of their older kits.

Odd you should mention them. Swiftech's first "waterblock" was one of their classical air heatsinks with an acrylic shell over it. It did about par with what it would've on air. I'm sure they'd love nothing more than to forget their first watercooling offering. But it was the first commercial block designed for you to use LEDs to light it AFAIK.

Quote: Originally Posted by Iateronmly Odd you should mention them. Swiftech's first "waterblock" was one of their classical air heatsinks with an acrylic shell over it. It did about par with what it would've on air. I'm sure they'd love nothing more than to forget their first watercooling offering. But it was the first commercial block designed for you to use LEDs to light it AFAIK.

tru, tru, I got this kit back in the day (before I even found Pimprig rrrrr PCApex) it was for my intel p4 setup....

It was this kit:

[H] Enthusiast - Swiftech H20-120 Water Cooling Kit

well with the bigger radiator

The only thing i still use it the pump lol

In theory, there isn't much difference between air cooling and water cooling. The goal is to draw heat away from the core to the fins and then remove it. With conventional heatsinks, air is used to remove the heat, with water cooling it is the obvious.

If you look at the inner design of a waterblock, it has the same principle of a heatsink. Maximize the amount of time the coolant can stay on the areas that are hot without allowing the coolant itself to become too hot. Early on, the use of a heatsink cooled by water was tried by many. It was hard to find a good waterblock and even the ones I got from Tom Leufken leaked all over the damn place. So those who didn't have their own mill to make a waterblock built their own solution. It was usually a heatsink in acrylic.

Most designs were not successful because people concentrated on area and not on flow. The heatsinks provided areas where the water would circulate in place which would cause hot spots inside the unit. That's why after several years of different designs, the smaller footprint, but thicker finned design was embraced by manufacturers. Concentrating the heat and then allowing for high flow to wisk it away seems to work better.

Using a heatsink as a waterblock is a good idea and shows that you are thinking of alternative methods, but like the wheel, it's been tried time and time again. It's kind of like TEC cooling, someone posts every few months, "Hey, if I used on of these I could really cool my CPU... Right?" Then we have to repeat the truth which is not unless you are willing to commit a bunch of bucks to insulation.

Sometimes, tried and true designs can be tweaked though. I will never forget Zennzo's direct-die cooler that I didn't give a great chance for success. Matter of fact, I thought he would lose a CPU and mobo while trying to perfect it, but instead he pulled amazingly great temps. Now THAT's thinking outside the box.

i have a nice oversized radiator (car air-con gas radiator) and i could steal a pond pump from my mother, if not thats going to set me back $50.
By the reads of this, to convert a heatsink is going to be a lot of trials, errors, tears, resouces and a little blood shead...
i do have 3 stockys to use, and some plexy to burn. I will be ok to chop slice and dice these sinks, but one of my concern is, how do i clip it down without the clips? will simple cable ties do? or sould i attempt to rig up a new metal clip?
the second is, the gap through the fins that was used for the clip, will that couse the effect "hot spots" that Akita was mentioning?

...Or even better, how bout' i get a P3 HS that has the fins parallel, which will be easier to seal up and let the flow through across the fins with no stops... ... hmm

I think you should probly just save up for an actual waterblock or stay on air. Zip ties won't ensure tight enough (or even) contact to the proc...you need the clips. The price of a decent waterblock is a bargain compared to the cost of a fried computer.



Although....if you are daring enough to attempt this, make sure your venture is well documented

Quote: ....if you are daring enough to attempt this, make sure your venture is well documented

Now isn't that what moddings all about?
... would you not agree that the area on the air based heatsink make it a better heat removal in water?
as i sayed, i have three to [bleep] up, i have used cable ties before on my 939 with a "A" stocky (worked well too, both in cooling and holding)...

if i was going to get a waterblock, i think it would have to wait till after i get my AM2 system up, which wont be the best of the systems for $300 with memory...
...ehem
Well, i'll see what i can do and document my sucsess or failure for others to learn off (finds digi and batterys)
... might even think of doing derect-die water cooling
untill the day of resurrecting this thread

Quote: Originally Posted by MaximusPsychosis ... would you not agree that the area on the air based heatsink make it a better heat removal in water?

Wonder why teh WB manufacturers haven't thought of this. Or have they?

I'm sure you can make a workable waterblock with an air heatsink.
the problem is getting the fluid to flow where you want it ,since the fins only go in one direction.

probably the best way would be to have the inlet directly over the center and 2 outlets ,one on each side of the block like the Danger Den RBX block layout.

Since it sounds like your taking the cheaper Ghetto approach,just make sure to use a Nonconductive coolent in case of leaks.

it will be fully tested for leaks before it sees the system...
... but for the non conductive fluid, Baby oil
.. and if anyone wahts to know, i haven't started yet, need to find the time and the tools (known me, it will prolly' be another one of them proijests that will sit on the back-burner and never get done).