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Old 20-September-05, 07:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Coollaboratory...QQcmdZViewItem

http://www.frostytech.com/permalink.cfm?NewsID=44900

BS? Worth a shot?
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Old 20-September-05, 08:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Unless that's a big chunk out of your pocket I think it's worth a shot. Someones got to be the first to try it.
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Old 20-September-05, 08:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Your location sez University - any chance you can get the chemistry prof to break it down in the mass spectrometer?

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Old 20-September-05, 08:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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am really just replying so i can get email updates on this...

very interested to see if anyone has this stuff.

As an air cooled (read as "too poor for watercooled") man im always looking for new ways to lower temps!
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Old 20-September-05, 08:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I might buy some, im on a pretty tight (Student) budget, but my loan comes through next week

If I do, ill post up some results/analysis.

Im guessing nobody on PR has had any kinda experience with this stuff then? Or anything like it?
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Old 20-September-05, 08:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Holy Crap that stuff looks awsome! It reminds me of the liquid magnetic stuff...It looks like mercury though...

hmm whats the metal though? I know theres a metal that belts at room temp, but as temps get higher it turns into a solid..(began with an A...)
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Old 20-September-05, 08:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
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just make sure you don't have any aluminum coolers. looks like that stuff corrodes it or something according to his warning on his auction
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Old 20-September-05, 08:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm just wondering if it's like Mercury.........liquid metal?
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Old 21-September-05, 01:44 AM   #9 (permalink)
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If it's purely metallic it must contain some percentage of either mercury, gallium, caesium, and rubidium. Of those mercury is highly toxic, and rubidium and caesium are among the most electropositive elements, meaning they probably won't stay in a nice liquid mixture, but rather react with elements in air. Caesium is toxic and too expensive to be a primary component in a TIM. Rubidium only melts at 40C, ignites spontaneaously in air, and is also too expensive. That leaves only gallium and probably some other metallic elements. This conclusion is further supported by this statement in the auction:

""Coollaboratory liquid metal" is optimised in its composition for the application with high-quality copper coolers. Please do not use any aluminium coolers."

Aluminum and gallium form a low-melting eutectic mixture, which means your pricey aluminum HSF will basically be melted.

An alloy of 24% indium and 76% gallium is liquid at room temperature. That's what I'd put my money on.
Taken from here:
http://www.webelements.com/webelemen...xt/In/key.html

Some other points of interest are that this TIM has no cure time....it'll always be in a liquid state, it is electrically conductive, and it raises questions of how one would clean it off of the IHS or HSF. Someone is gonna have to be the guinea pig. I would definetly like to see a professional analysis beforehand, certainly something better than a review by an enthusiast site:
http://www.allround-pc.com/index.php...03/bericht.htm

Edit: Just read that review and the composition is indeed gallium and indium, so toxicity shouldn't be a problem, only the other drawbaks listed above. I wonder if this is why something like this hasn't been released by AS or another TIM manufacturer in the past.....it isn't idiot-proof.

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Old 21-September-05, 03:31 AM   #10 (permalink)
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*volunteers for guinea pig duties* Mines in the post

Before I do anything with it, I will, as somebody suggested, try to get one of the Chemistry Profs/Technicians to do a proper analysis of it.

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"Coollaboratory liquid metal" adheres to the cooler and CPU by means of the effective adhesive powers. It does not need any sealing. Of course, also in case of a vertical installation.

I don't really understand what "effective adhesive powers" means but it doesn't sound like its gonna leak all over my mobo and video card.

Not sure how long it'll be before I get a chance to test it on my rig, im running A64 stock cooling at the moment whilst I sell of various parts for a WC setup. The stock A64 HSF is aluminium right? In which case it'd melt if I used this liquid metal stuff?
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Old 21-September-05, 05:00 AM   #11 (permalink)
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We've got a review sample coming.
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Old 21-September-05, 05:31 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Sweet BA, ill definately keep an eye out for that review. Any ideas its eta?
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Old 21-September-05, 06:52 AM   #13 (permalink)
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hmn, if only i had lots of money. Gallium alloy instead of water anyone?
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Old 21-September-05, 06:55 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Lol thats what I thought it was for at first, but I doubt very much it would be a good idea to fill a watercooling setup with that stuff.
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Old 21-September-05, 06:56 AM   #15 (permalink)
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It will ship in the next day or two; with shipping time, photo time, testing, allowing time for the TIM to set, writeup, formatting, and publishing, I'd say within the next two to three weeks.
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Old 23-September-05, 09:37 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Wow ,this looks interesting.Thanks for being the guinee pig B.A. I hope this stuff works well
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Old 23-September-05, 10:19 AM   #17 (permalink)
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That looks very interesting.
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Old 28-September-05, 05:45 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Well, the stuff came in the mail this morning as promised. Havn't tried it yet, im current running stock cooling (aluminium...) and apparently this stuff isn't to be used with anything other than quality copper or silver coolers.

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Old 28-September-05, 05:59 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Well, the stuff came in the mail this morning as promised. Havn't tried it yet, im current running stock cooling (aluminium...) and apparently this stuff isn't to be used with anything other than quality copper or silver coolers.

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You should be the first to do a review.
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Old 28-September-05, 06:07 PM   #20 (permalink)
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GK's doing an official PR review in the next few weeks. Plus I don't have a copper cooler at the moment. Im back on stock A64 cooling at the moment whilst I save for a WC setup
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