ATI Fan Failing

spl3001 · 31-July-05, 11:16 PM

I have an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB video card and the fan is failing.

I have ordered a Arctic Cooling ATI Silencer Rev 1 slot cooler for it, but it won't be here for a few days. I have some 80mm fans and few other resources at hand.

What I want to know is: can I construct a temporary solution to the problem? The video card is overheating when playing games like CounterStrike and BF2. The fan seems to become less operative as temperatures increase on the heatsink. I just need a 2-3 day solution so I can continue playing games until I get the slot cooler.

Thanks in advance.

Big Deuce · 31-July-05, 11:44 PM

See if the fan from the 9600pro i left at your house will work
Or you could try to be super hardcore and rig up your old CPU heatsink and fan somehow. That would be great.

TYCOON · 01-August-05, 12:41 AM

Ohh damn no! I 9600Pro makes 1/15 the heat of a 9800Pro. Its cooler can cool 1/15 as good as the 9800Pro's cooler. If you did that the card would overheat within seconds.

Best bet is to have a higher RPM fan blowing on it from about an inch away. That should do you for the time.

Of course you will know if this sint good enough and its overheating becuase in game you will start too see texture corruption and whatnot(black spots, purple squars, black lines) and if you see that. Run for the powercable and rip it out of the wall before the card is damaged.

Highperf15 · 01-August-05, 12:44 AM

You could always adapt an old CPU HSF if you have the room..................or just wait til the cooler arrives........

Big Deuce · 01-August-05, 12:52 AM

yeah thats what i told him

spl3001 · 01-August-05, 02:38 AM

Alright, so I do have my old CPU fan, but there isn't a clear way to mount it upside down on my video card. Socket A heatsinks and clips don't work very well with a Radeon 9800 Pro 256 MB. Plus, I don't even think there is enough room between my video card and wireless card adaptor. It's at the farthest PCI slot available too.

Someone mentioned mounting a fan 1 inch away from the heatsink. How would I go about doing this? If there is an easy way to do it, I'm all ears. I'm currently on a non-gaming system in the garage and CS is beckoning.

Highperf15 · 01-August-05, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by spl3001


	Alright, so I do have my old CPU fan, but there isn't a clear way to mount it upside down on my video card. Socket A heatsinks and clips don't work very well with a Radeon 9800 Pro 256 MB. Plus, I don't even think there is enough room between my video card and wireless card adaptor. It's at the farthest PCI slot available too. Someone mentioned mounting a fan 1 inch away from the heatsink. How would I go about doing this? If there is an easy way to do it, I'm all ears. I'm currently on a non-gaming system in the garage and CS is beckoning.

You gotta think "outside the box"..........take the HSF, turn it upside down on a table, take your card and flip it so the GPU mates the HSF. take a marker and mark the mounting holes, set the card aside, drill the holes and tap em..................if space is an issue regarding the height of the HSF, take a hacksaw and cut the fins down a lil (just make sure there's room to mount the fan...............

spl3001 · 01-August-05, 04:02 AM

I decided to think outside the box a bit on my own, and here is what I came up with.
After examination, I would like some opinions on how well this will actually keep my card cool.

The problem:

The solution:

The implementation:

Ok, so what I want to know is:

Will this keep my stock ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 256 MB cool, even under heavy load, like playing CounterStrike: Source online for an hour or two? It's only a 2-3 day solution until i get my slot cooler. The case is on its side, and the left cover will be off. The heat sinks cover is gone, obviously, and so is the crappy fan (labelled POS Fan in the first pic).

Big Deuce · 01-August-05, 04:07 AM

awesome solution. I'm sure only time will tell though.

spl3001 · 01-August-05, 04:14 AM

One other thing: can you check the temps with some sort of program for the 9800 Pro?

z0mbi3 · 01-August-05, 04:20 PM

Unfortunatley not, on board temp sensors are relatively new to gpu's (at least speaking from ati experience). You'll have to use some sort of temperature probe.

Just to give a bit of feedback on you're make shift mod while I'm posting. You're only going to encounter major temp differences if you get rid of the thermal gunk on ur GPU and replace it with some descent stuff.

Untill your shiney cooler comes , you've defintley done good with whats available.

Highperf15 · 01-August-05, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z0mbi3


	Unfortunatley not, on board temp sensors are relatively new to gpu's (at least speaking from ati experience). You'll have to use some sort of temperature probe. Just to give a bit of feedback on you're make shift mod while I'm posting. You're only going to encounter major temp differences if you get rid of the thermal gunk on ur GPU and replace it with some descent stuff. Untill your shiney cooler comes , you've defintley done good with whats available.

Your right on that.......the 9800 Pro doesn't have a temp sensor like the newer cards do............I thought mine had one , but it doesn't............Just fire it up and play a game for a few hours...........I think it will work myself......................great idea..........

TYCOON · 01-August-05, 05:34 PM

Wow what kind of camera is that, those pictures look great!!

And I did the same thing(alot more ghetto tho) with my 9800Pro, it worked fine.

You should be good untill your new stuff comes.

spl3001 · 01-August-05, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TYCOON


	Wow what kind of camera is that, those pictures look great!! And I did the same thing(alot more ghetto tho) with my 9800Pro, it worked fine. You should be good untill your new stuff comes.

It's a Cannon 10D with a 24-85mm lens. I used a Cannon 440 EX flash for those pics, and bounced the flash off my walls. I'm kind of a semi-amatuer photographer, I guess.

Big Deuce · 03-August-05, 06:01 PM

More like an all pro photographer......30 second exposure in the middle of the night this that and the other. Anyway you will never know if it will work well enough to game on unless you actually fire up a game that uses the card. CS anyone???? Doesn't your cooler come today???

31-July-05, 11:16 PM		#1 (permalink)
spl3001 Apex Techie Lite	ATI Fan Failing I have an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB video card and the fan is failing. I have ordered a Arctic Cooling ATI Silencer Rev 1 slot cooler for it, but it won't be here for a few days. I have some 80mm fans and few other resources at hand. What I want to know is: can I construct a temporary solution to the problem? The video card is overheating when playing games like CounterStrike and BF2. The fan seems to become less operative as temperatures increase on the heatsink. I just need a 2-3 day solution so I can continue playing games until I get the slot cooler. Thanks in advance.

01-August-05, 04:07 AM		#9 (permalink)
Big Deuce Apex Master Tech Apprentice	awesome solution. I'm sure only time will tell though. Last edited by Big Deuce; 01-August-05 at 04:16 AM..

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31-July-05, 11:44 PM		#2 (permalink)
Big Deuce Apex Master Tech Apprentice	See if the fan from the 9600pro i left at your house will work Or you could try to be super hardcore and rig up your old CPU heatsink and fan somehow. That would be great.

01-August-05, 12:41 AM		#3 (permalink)
TYCOON Apex Tech God	Ohh damn no! I 9600Pro makes 1/15 the heat of a 9800Pro. Its cooler can cool 1/15 as good as the 9800Pro's cooler. If you did that the card would overheat within seconds. Best bet is to have a higher RPM fan blowing on it from about an inch away. That should do you for the time. Of course you will know if this sint good enough and its overheating becuase in game you will start too see texture corruption and whatnot(black spots, purple squars, black lines) and if you see that. Run for the powercable and rip it out of the wall before the card is damaged.

01-August-05, 12:44 AM		#4 (permalink)
Highperf15 a.k.a., Frank Bullitt	You could always adapt an old CPU HSF if you have the room..................or just wait til the cooler arrives........

01-August-05, 12:52 AM		#5 (permalink)
Big Deuce Apex Master Tech Apprentice	yeah thats what i told him

01-August-05, 02:38 AM		#6 (permalink)
spl3001 Apex Techie Lite	Alright, so I do have my old CPU fan, but there isn't a clear way to mount it upside down on my video card. Socket A heatsinks and clips don't work very well with a Radeon 9800 Pro 256 MB. Plus, I don't even think there is enough room between my video card and wireless card adaptor. It's at the farthest PCI slot available too. Someone mentioned mounting a fan 1 inch away from the heatsink. How would I go about doing this? If there is an easy way to do it, I'm all ears. I'm currently on a non-gaming system in the garage and CS is beckoning.

01-August-05, 04:02 AM		#8 (permalink)
spl3001 Apex Techie Lite	I decided to think outside the box a bit on my own, and here is what I came up with. After examination, I would like some opinions on how well this will actually keep my card cool. The problem: The solution: The implementation: Ok, so what I want to know is: Will this keep my stock ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 256 MB cool, even under heavy load, like playing CounterStrike: Source online for an hour or two? It's only a 2-3 day solution until i get my slot cooler. The case is on its side, and the left cover will be off. The heat sinks cover is gone, obviously, and so is the crappy fan (labelled POS Fan in the first pic).

01-August-05, 04:14 AM		#10 (permalink)
spl3001 Apex Techie Lite	One other thing: can you check the temps with some sort of program for the 9800 Pro?

01-August-05, 04:20 PM		#11 (permalink)
z0mbi3 Apex Tech Maniac	Unfortunatley not, on board temp sensors are relatively new to gpu's (at least speaking from ati experience). You'll have to use some sort of temperature probe. Just to give a bit of feedback on you're make shift mod while I'm posting. You're only going to encounter major temp differences if you get rid of the thermal gunk on ur GPU and replace it with some descent stuff. Untill your shiney cooler comes , you've defintley done good with whats available.

01-August-05, 05:34 PM		#13 (permalink)
TYCOON Apex Tech God	Wow what kind of camera is that, those pictures look great!! And I did the same thing(alot more ghetto tho) with my 9800Pro, it worked fine. You should be good untill your new stuff comes.

03-August-05, 06:01 PM		#15 (permalink)
Big Deuce Apex Master Tech Apprentice	More like an all pro photographer......30 second exposure in the middle of the night this that and the other. Anyway you will never know if it will work well enough to game on unless you actually fire up a game that uses the card. CS anyone???? Doesn't your cooler come today???