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makkunbakkun · 23-March-03, 02:31 AM

ok i have 2 heatsinks....one that came with my amd 1600+ and one that came with my amd 2400+ the amd 1600+ heatsink is a little wider than the 2400...which one should i be using??....and can i take an old heatsink fan and put 2 fans on top of each other on the heatsink so i send twice the air to the heatsink? thanks for your help guys

BigAkita · 23-March-03, 02:56 AM

Do you have any sort of model or name of the heatsinks?

TheOutcast · 23-March-03, 03:00 AM

Okay for starters, doubling the fans (stacking them, whatever) doesn't work. I've tested and tested and tested it again, and I've never seen any benefit in the standardized lighter testing. If anything, it becomes worse! Now then, for your heatsinks... They don't happen to be the AMD Retail heatsinks? Or are they just some heatsinks you got from a guy that you traded/bribed/bought it from? It'd help us out if we knew which heatsinks you were talking about.

makkunbakkun · 23-March-03, 03:07 AM

theyre both default AMD heatsinks.....they both just have the metal rows and a fan on top.........and i add the extra fan anywhere to a heatsink that would help it more??

TheOutcast · 23-March-03, 03:10 AM

If you could find a way to mount them side by side on that heatsink, it'd help it cool because there wouldn't be that rather large dead-zone of hot air underneath the fan motor, which is coincedentally right above the core of the CPU.

n00bishLaggeR · 23-March-03, 03:24 AM

If it works dont fix it:
What are your CPU tempature ranges makkunbakkun?

TheOutcast · 23-March-03, 03:24 AM

No no... if it works, mod it. If you break it, fix it. Sheesh....

n00bishLaggeR · 23-March-03, 03:39 AM

Ok your right oucast

albertj03 · 23-March-03, 10:03 AM

Those stock AMD heatsinks are worthless. When I first installed my cpu with the oem hsf my cpu temps were over 60C. After replacing with a Thermalright SK-7 ($19.00 at www.svc.com) some artic silver 3, and an 80mm fan my temps dropped to 38C+/-. The only issue with not using the oem HSF is that the AMD warranty states that your warranty is void if you use anything but the OEM HSF. I once got around that by collecting all of the dust I could find inside my case and rubbed my oem hsf in the dust to make it appear to have been used. I also took the thermal pad off. Sounds funny but it worked.

makkunbakkun · 23-March-03, 12:20 PM

ok any ideas on how to mount a fan onto the side of this thing =p? yes its a crappy heatsink right now but i bet with 2 fans roaring it should make it a little better, thx all

TheOutcast · 23-March-03, 01:15 PM

http://tweak3d.net/tweak/airflowtweak/5.shtml
Pages five and six explain what I was talking about...
Mount a fan on the side? Now there's an interesting idea...

bushh · 23-March-03, 02:00 PM

I also have tried to used two fans, you really have to be "scientific" about it. The fans could actually interup the flow of the other, and make the situation worse, what about putting them off the same axis of each other?

makkunbakkun · 23-March-03, 06:25 PM

i can wash my heatsink with water right>?

TheOutcast · 23-March-03, 07:07 PM

Yes, but you make for god damned sure that it's absolutely 100% dry. I can't imagine a rusty heatsink being any good, neither can I imagine water drops left over playing nice with your components.

makkunbakkun · 23-March-03, 07:31 PM

look at the picture above....can i place a fan at the top normal blowing into the heatsink AND ANOTHER on the side pointing up blowing out....would that make good setup?

TheOutcast · 23-March-03, 07:42 PM

Okay... let me get this straight.. You would have a fan blowing down from the usual spot, and one on the side blowing that air out the side? So it's drawing air from the fins and not the outside air? That might work... only problem I see is that now your HSF is heavy on one side and I don't know what kind of stress that might put on your core, if any.

makkunbakkun · 23-March-03, 08:40 PM

nonono not like that gime sec to setup my picture and il illustrate =p

makkunbakkun · 23-March-03, 08:49 PM

this is my idea of how i want it

me_john85 · 23-March-03, 08:51 PM

this is what im thinking of

TheOutcast · 23-March-03, 09:03 PM

Well now I don't really know. I guess it might work as kind of a wind tunnel, but I'm thinking it'd create a bit of turbulence where the two exhausts meet, thus hampering the airflow. I'm now over my head... some other pimp'll have to help you.

23-March-03, 02:31 AM		#1 (permalink)
makkunbakkun Apex Techie II	fans ok i have 2 heatsinks....one that came with my amd 1600+ and one that came with my amd 2400+ the amd 1600+ heatsink is a little wider than the 2400...which one should i be using??....and can i take an old heatsink fan and put 2 fans on top of each other on the heatsink so i send twice the air to the heatsink? thanks for your help guys

23-March-03, 12:20 PM		#10 (permalink)
makkunbakkun Apex Techie II	ok any ideas on how to mount a fan onto the side of this thing =p? yes its a crappy heatsink right now but i bet with 2 fans roaring it should make it a little better, thx all Attached Thumbnails

23-March-03, 08:49 PM		#18 (permalink)
makkunbakkun Apex Techie II	this is my idea of how i want it Attached Thumbnails

23-March-03, 08:51 PM		#19 (permalink)
me_john85 Camp Pen-Hoe-tan's Hoe	this is what im thinking of Attached Thumbnails

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23-March-03, 02:56 AM		#2 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer	Do you have any sort of model or name of the heatsinks?

23-March-03, 03:00 AM		#3 (permalink)
TheOutcast Minnes-hoe-tan	Okay for starters, doubling the fans (stacking them, whatever) doesn't work. I've tested and tested and tested it again, and I've never seen any benefit in the standardized lighter testing. If anything, it becomes worse! Now then, for your heatsinks... They don't happen to be the AMD Retail heatsinks? Or are they just some heatsinks you got from a guy that you traded/bribed/bought it from? It'd help us out if we knew which heatsinks you were talking about.

23-March-03, 03:07 AM		#4 (permalink)
makkunbakkun Apex Techie II	theyre both default AMD heatsinks.....they both just have the metal rows and a fan on top.........and i add the extra fan anywhere to a heatsink that would help it more??

23-March-03, 03:10 AM		#5 (permalink)
TheOutcast Minnes-hoe-tan	If you could find a way to mount them side by side on that heatsink, it'd help it cool because there wouldn't be that rather large dead-zone of hot air underneath the fan motor, which is coincedentally right above the core of the CPU.

23-March-03, 03:24 AM		#6 (permalink)
n00bishLaggeR losernoOb	If it works dont fix it: What are your CPU tempature ranges makkunbakkun?

23-March-03, 03:24 AM		#7 (permalink)
TheOutcast Minnes-hoe-tan	No no... if it works, mod it. If you break it, fix it. Sheesh....

23-March-03, 03:39 AM		#8 (permalink)
n00bishLaggeR losernoOb	Ok your right oucast

23-March-03, 10:03 AM		#9 (permalink)
albertj03 Apex Advanced Techie	Those stock AMD heatsinks are worthless. When I first installed my cpu with the oem hsf my cpu temps were over 60C. After replacing with a Thermalright SK-7 ($19.00 at www.svc.com) some artic silver 3, and an 80mm fan my temps dropped to 38C+/-. The only issue with not using the oem HSF is that the AMD warranty states that your warranty is void if you use anything but the OEM HSF. I once got around that by collecting all of the dust I could find inside my case and rubbed my oem hsf in the dust to make it appear to have been used. I also took the thermal pad off. Sounds funny but it worked.

23-March-03, 01:15 PM		#11 (permalink)
TheOutcast Minnes-hoe-tan	http://tweak3d.net/tweak/airflowtweak/5.shtml Pages five and six explain what I was talking about... Mount a fan on the side? Now there's an interesting idea...

23-March-03, 02:00 PM		#12 (permalink)
bushh Apex Tech Fanatic	I also have tried to used two fans, you really have to be "scientific" about it. The fans could actually interup the flow of the other, and make the situation worse, what about putting them off the same axis of each other?

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23-March-03, 06:25 PM		#13 (permalink)
makkunbakkun Apex Techie II	i can wash my heatsink with water right>?

23-March-03, 07:07 PM		#14 (permalink)
TheOutcast Minnes-hoe-tan	Yes, but you make for god damned sure that it's absolutely 100% dry. I can't imagine a rusty heatsink being any good, neither can I imagine water drops left over playing nice with your components.

23-March-03, 07:31 PM		#15 (permalink)
makkunbakkun Apex Techie II	look at the picture above....can i place a fan at the top normal blowing into the heatsink AND ANOTHER on the side pointing up blowing out....would that make good setup?

23-March-03, 07:42 PM		#16 (permalink)
TheOutcast Minnes-hoe-tan	Okay... let me get this straight.. You would have a fan blowing down from the usual spot, and one on the side blowing that air out the side? So it's drawing air from the fins and not the outside air? That might work... only problem I see is that now your HSF is heavy on one side and I don't know what kind of stress that might put on your core, if any.

23-March-03, 08:40 PM		#17 (permalink)
makkunbakkun Apex Techie II	nonono not like that gime sec to setup my picture and il illustrate =p

23-March-03, 09:03 PM		#20 (permalink)
TheOutcast Minnes-hoe-tan	Well now I don't really know. I guess it might work as kind of a wind tunnel, but I'm thinking it'd create a bit of turbulence where the two exhausts meet, thus hampering the airflow. I'm now over my head... some other pimp'll have to help you.