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Old 07-April-04, 01:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,

Well ive got 4 fans (80mm) and i recently got my new system up and running,

the thing is to cool my overclocked chip i have a Volcano 12 and the only problem now is i cant fit x2(80mm) fans at the back, bcos of the HSF being so damn big.

@ the moment i have:
Side= Intake
Front 2 = Intake
Only Exhust is the psu ( which hasn't got a fan @ bottom, just holes )

Now i want to be able to turn off @ least 2 of the fans at night so i can sleep

So what would be my best way of having it cool in case, as current
case temp is : 40oC
cpu: 34oC


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Old 07-April-04, 02:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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yeh front mounted fans are a real bugger some times - i dont have any personally, keeps the dust out and the noise to the rear of the PC. You could get a card slot exhaust fan - I have one of these next to my FX 5200 - keeps everything cool at minimal noise. Also try the fan adapter that mounts onto the PC card slots, and can be placed over the heatsink on the CPU -not sure what they're called, but that will reduce the noise level again.

failing that, there always the noise dampening foam, however this is a last resort for me - the foam is a sucker for dust collecting - u just cant get it out.

the temperatures you state are pretty decent, and sacrificing a few degress for some piece and quiet i think will be worth your while.
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Old 07-April-04, 02:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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so how do you get any air coming in ? Side panel ?

Do you suggest that i buy 1/2/3 of those pci blower cards ?

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Old 07-April-04, 03:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Mount the two 80mm exhaust fans outside the case instead of inside.
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Old 07-April-04, 04:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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so how do you get any air coming in ? Side panel ?

Do you suggest that i buy 1/2/3 of those pci blower cards ?

Ty,

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The air will come in by itself - it has to basically! the fans at the back (well the exhust fan and PSU fan) will pull air out of the system, allowing fresh air to come in the front or bottom vents by itself.

I only have 1 of the exhaust fans for my graphics card, but I cant see why a 2nd cant be used - 1 next to the graphics card, one at the bottom of the case to keep a cool supply of air coming in through the front.

Unless you have a lian li, cheiftech, or antec case, most give very little ventilation for fans mounted on the front. Unless you have one of these cases, I can see why noise would be such a problem - air is forced through a tiny gap which really isnt worth 2 fans.
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Old 07-April-04, 04:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The air will come in by itself - it has to basically! the fans at the back (well the exhust fan and PSU fan) will pull air out of the system, allowing fresh air to come in the front or bottom vents by itself..

That's called negative pressure - not always the best way to cool a system.

I prefer (and most of the other guys here too) a system with positive pressure, i.e. more blowing than sucking. (man, that can really be taken outta context, huh? )

I would mount the fans on the back as putwig said, and keep the fan on the side.

You could also build/buy a baybus to control the fans individually.
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Old 07-April-04, 04:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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... the only problem now is i cant fit x2(80mm) fans at the back, bcos of the HSF being so damn big.

Another vote for putwig's suggesstion here



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... Now i want to be able to turn off @ least 2 of the fans at night so i can sleep

Try running them at 7v instead - plug the +ve wire from the fan into the 12v (yellow) wire on a Molex connector, & the -ve fan wire to a 5v (red) Molex wire.



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... So what would be my best way of having it cool in case, as current
case temp is : 40oC
cpu: 34oC

"Case temp"? Are you sure that's not the system temp, i.e. the temp of the Northbridge chip?
If those temps are correct, you seriously need some better airflow in there.
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Old 07-April-04, 05:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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... You could get a card slot exhaust fan - I have one of these next to my FX 5200 - keeps everything cool at minimal noise. Also try the fan adapter that mounts onto the PC card slots, and can be placed over the heatsink on the CPU -not sure what they're called, but that will reduce the noise level again.

Fan adaptors are a good idea - whacking a 120mm fan with the same cfm as an 80 will loose a lot of dB ... card slot fans are a waste of money & fitting time IMO - the reason they're so quiet is because they shift so little air



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failing that, there always the noise dampening foam, however this is a last resort for me - the foam is a sucker for dust collecting - u just cant get it out.

What sort of foam have you been using? The foam sold as sound dampening material is closed cell ... you might get a bit of dust on the surface, but that'd be easy enough to get off.
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Old 07-April-04, 05:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well im currenty using MBM5 to read my temps.... any other program to check my temps ?
Edit : System Temp : 40oC!!! Checked In Bios


Yesterday i was getting 35oC, and i haven't touched nothing ( voltage wise )

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Old 08-April-04, 09:15 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I Open The Side Panel That Manages to Get a couple Of oC's Off.

If i decide i want to, i might go ahead and MOD a case, ( look on thread in case modding [case 1 ] )

Also, the case im going to be modding will have a 80mm Acting as an Exhust, 120mm ( front ) as intake, And possibly x1 exhust on the side panel. ( should it be exhust/intake ? )
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Old 08-April-04, 09:39 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I know this may be a off the wall idea, but you could turn the computer off at night...

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Also, the case im going to be modding will have a 80mm Acting as an Exhust, 120mm ( front ) as intake, And possibly x1 exhust on the side panel. ( should it be exhust/intake ? )

Make it an intake, to have positive pressure as Joose suggested. That way you have 2 fans blowing fresh air into your case, and 1 (+psu?) blowing it out.
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Old 08-April-04, 11:44 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Ok, Ive managed to put 1 80mm fan @ the back ( inside )

Lol, dnt ask me how

Anyway, my current System temp is 40oC again, but ive turned a fan off...
With the fan on i get about 36-38oC... Is this normal + My Cpu is: 35oC ?

@ the mo i got : 1x80mm - intake , 1x 80mm exhust. And another intake (80mm) turned off.
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Old 08-April-04, 11:56 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Is your cpu temp under full load and recieving those temps or just regulare usage? If just under regular usage thats not bad but nor is it great by anymeans. If it is under 100 percent usage thats pretty good temps for air imo. Youd also probably do a little better on your exhaust if your brave enough to whip out your dremel and cut a hole in the top for your 80mm fan. Heat does rise and if your suckin it out before it becomes stale and not very tasty any more your temps will improve. REMEMBER that if you do descide to cut a hole, take all of your components out.
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Old 08-April-04, 12:01 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Ya, This is a tempoary case, im moddin a case

Well im browsing the internet, using adobe photshop and msn etc etc So i wouldn;t call it full load Ive also just switched it to "silent" and its gone to 38oC now.

These Cheapo Fans are $"!T, TOOOOO damn loud
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Old 08-April-04, 12:13 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I know exactly the best way you can test it under full load then! Go here and download the program and run it for a couple of hours and then continue to run it for about 1 year to be exact and donate all the points you get for using this program to team #596 (thats pimprig playa). If you can beat my temps of 32C with air at full load then ill tell you good job.....i might even say really good job.....hehe im jkin. But seriosly start folding for humanity and pimprig right away. Not only are you trying to save humanity by doing so but you can also see how good of a cooling setup you have.
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Old 08-April-04, 12:24 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Do i just right mouse click the X and then when it minimizes is it running ??
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Old 08-April-04, 12:30 PM   #17 (permalink)
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ummmm buttplug? hehe umm i think your talkin about the little red circle (genome) lookin fell in the bottom right hand of your screen. If so if that little guy is there than the program is running. Just make sure you entered 596 for the team. Also check by ctrl+alt+del and check out your performance meter. If shes cookin out a haggard tune at 100 percent all the time you are now fighting cancer, and blah blah blah. Hope this helped if not get a hold of me on msn messenger and ill help more.
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Old 08-April-04, 03:31 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Hi,

I was wondering what would i need to use THIS?

Ive heard its good for getting temperatures, but i dont 100% know how it works....

Ty,

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Old 08-April-04, 04:02 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Also, ive spoken to a lot of people and they are saying that my temps are supposed to be the other way round, coz at the mo my temps are
Cpu : 38oC
system: 41oC


ive got x1 80mm intake, and 1x80mm Exhust.

This is really bugging me, i think the temps are tooo high.

Ive spoken to this guy, and he has overclocked to the same everything as me... but he has
his temps
CPU: 40oC
SYS:22oC

he also has 5 case fans (80mm) and a fan controller ( set on the lowest setting )


Is this a DFI mobo problem, or is it just me ?

My pc is kinda loud, and i dont want o turn any more fans in....
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Old 08-April-04, 04:37 PM   #20 (permalink)
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You got a better heatsink, simple
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