So I just got all my new parts in including an e7200. I've heard the stock coolers are actually pretty good, so I decided I'd give it a whirl, just stick it on there no arctic silver or nuthin, just wanted to see how this goes.

Well looks like it's going badly, but before I mess with it I wanted to run this by with y'all. It's idling at about 49, under load it got to about 60 and, well, I took it off of load when I saw that and it went back to 53 almost immediately. Last night I took a case fan and pointed it straight at it and my temps stayed at the 40's all the way, though my chipset temps remained in the 45-55 area.

Right now my case is open-air (I'm working on a case-mod for it but hooking it up each night because... new computer!) and my room is right about at room temps. It's lying flat on it's side, so that heat shouldn't be trapped in by anything.

I'm thinking take that stock cooler off and give it a proper AS-5 treatment, but maybe it's just that stock cooler, since I never seem to feel much air coming off of it. These ARE high temps right?

I don't have an e7200 but I have a Q6600 running on the factory heatsink. No overclock and at stock voltage it is runnng folding 24/7. The load temps are high 60's. I have given up and shut it down till I can get a better heatsink. I was having random lockups with it and couldn't figure out why till I let it run with the temp monitor on. I had 71-72F room temp and my cpu was at 68C. Not good numbers considering intels max spec is 70C for that chip. I would tend to thiink that my factory heatsink is not as good as I was hoping. You very well be running into the same issue. AS5 will definatly help versus the original thermal pad but you may be looking into an aftermarker heatsink before long.


Edit: I checked case airflow and all my case fans are working so that wasn't the issue. 4x80mm intake, 2x80 & 1x120mm exhaust.

Well..I'd say that sounds a bit on the warm side, that is a 45NM CPU at only 2.5ghz with stock volts!

A X6800 65NM on the stock cooler was tested at Anandtech at 31c idle and 50c load.

He used "Coretemp" to measure temps..what did you use?

What are your ambient temps? they usually test at around 70F (About 22c)

What "Duty Cycle" did you set in the Bios? 100% or is it variable?

Are you using "Speed Step" and other similar options in the bios, or did you disable them so it never lowers the multi or voltage?

FYI: I just OC'd Digital worlds new GO Quad 6600 to 2.9GHZ (2.4GHZ stock) with 1.4v BIOS (1.35v is stock, CPUZ shows 1.32v, the ASUS Striker board has a nasty VDROOP) with the Intel retail cooler from his old E6600, and it was hitting around 40c idle and 55C load, but did not test it for very long (A single run of 3DMARK 01, wich I am not sure if that loaded all cores, but Vista's built in bench had all 4 cores loaded )

The factory heatsink for the 45nm chips is significantly smaller than the old one isn't it?

Just buy an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, they're cheap as chips.

I threw in the AS5 last night and no change. I'm pretty sure it's not my thermal pasting abilities, I've been doing that for a while now with no problem.

I've been using speedfan, which seems to give me the same results as asus monitor (it's an asus board) which seems to agree with the BIOS readout. I haven't told speedfan to do anything other than monitor the temps.

I haven't been using speedstep, mostly because I forgot about it. Would that even help when I'm running CPU heavy games (which is when the temps go to 60?)

I haven't seen an option for "Duty Cycle". This is my first intel system since who knows when and I'm still trying to find my way around.

There is this: one little stud on that fan has a hard time going in. I'm pretty sure I got it in there, but maybe it's a little uneven. If that's the case or if something else is, I think I'm getting an aftermarket fan either way

Quote: Originally Posted by $SOLID$ Necro Well..I'd say that sounds a bit on the warm side, that is a 45NM CPU at only 2.5ghz with stock volts! A X6800 65NM on the stock cooler was tested at Anandtech at 31c idle and 50c load. He used "Coretemp" to measure temps..what did you use? What are your ambient temps? they usually test at around 70F (About 22c) What "Duty Cycle" did you set in the Bios? 100% or is it variable? Are you using "Speed Step" and other similar options in the bios, or did you disable them so it never lowers the multi or voltage? FYI: I just OC'd Digital worlds new GO Quad 6600 to 2.9GHZ (2.4GHZ stock) with 1.4v BIOS (1.35v is stock, CPUZ shows 1.32v, the ASUS Striker board has a nasty VDROOP) with the Intel retail cooler from his old E6600, and it was hitting around 40c idle and 55C load, but did not test it for very long (A single run of 3DMARK 01, wich I am not sure if that loaded all cores, but Vista's built in bench had all 4 cores loaded )

Have you tried the razor blade test on the heatsink and processor to see if there is some curvature?

First I've heard of it, but that makes a lot of sense to check

Both passed the razor test, but I got a cooler master hs/f and I've been running steadily at 54-53 for about a half hour on load. Not great but better

Quote: Originally Posted by reflux The factory heatsink for the 45nm chips is significantly smaller than the old one isn't it? Just buy an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, they're cheap as chips.

You know what? I just mounted an ACFreezer7Pro with AC5 my e8400, stock settings, and my rig is running 40c idle. Haven't thoroughly tested the idle temps yet. Those plastic feet mounting to the mobo are annoying. I wonder if they are inherently poor design ... (actually, I don't wonder ... I'm certain they are.)

-godling

Just thought I'd revisit my thread to say.... despite some reviews reporting really low temps (I don't know why), a lot of people's e7200 hang out in the 70 degree range. Idling in the 40's is pretty normal it turn out

With a stock heatsink I would say those temps are close to normal, but that does not mean its good. While money is probably tight these days I would start saving a few dollars here and there and invest in a good/decent heatsink. This Thermalright Ultima-90 is a smaller version of the Thermalright Ultra 120. It performs pretty damn good 2. If your interested I can point you to a kickass review :-)

Thermalright Ultima-90 Aluminum Heatpipe Heatsink for K7/K8/775 Products Model: ULTIMA90 [ULTIMA90] : Performance-PCs.com, ... sleeve it and they will come

Ha I was about to come back to this thread for a question and you ALMOST answered it. I do need a new hsf mostly because this $30 thing I picked up from radio shack is the worst out of all 3 I've tried. But as you can see, I have NO clearance past the edge of the board. That thing can be as tall as whatever but it basically has to fit the stock cooler height and width... and unless I'm mistaken that one you recommended is just a LITTLE over. This is also laying flat so it's a little better if it's venting upward. Any ideas?

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If you can supply a picture from a little farther away so I can see your free space a little better I'll try to pick a different heatsink

What kind of case are you running????...........A mid-tower is not going to give you decent heat exchange like a full-tower.

BTW....I'm using the Nvidia temp monitor and it shows 39c.........using the ACFreezer7Pro and it also registered the same using Speedfan.........Now I'm using a full-tower Coolermaster Stacker 830. Good airflow with this case.

Quote: Originally Posted by Highperf15 What kind of case are you running????...........A mid-tower is not going to give you decent heat exchange like a full-tower. .

See that's the thing... it's an old stereo

here's a zoomed out version where you can get a better idea of it all
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well, that appears to be your problem.........looks like you might re-think continued use of that case (looks way too cramped and very lil air exchange)........unless you want the high temps to continue.

I have to agree... The only thing "cool" about that setup is the mod factor of using an old stereo carcass to house your machine...

I partially agree with the mid- vs full-size tower airflow argument, but in this instance, I think he will probably get slightly (as opposed to marginally) better temps with a case upgrade to a mid-tower. Thinking in terms of footprint size, comparing that of the stereo and a full-tower case...

My temps right now really aren't atypical though from looking around...and this hsf is worse than the artic cooling one I've used before. Between the vent holes at the top and the 120mm fan in the back, I don't think it's really all that bad. Nothing impressive, sure, and I'm not expecting to overclock at all, but I've used ****ty premods that had me less confident. I mean, I'm really only seeing about a 2 to 4 degree change from open-air. And I tried fans in all sorts of different positions until I settled on the one I have.

While I'm kind of miffed as to why the idle temps are in the 40's even with an open case, AND why so many others seem to be getting that, unless you guys can convince me this case is purely retarded, I'd prefer to keep it and work within my constraints.

Although I see your point about your mod.........You can't just disregard that I'm getting my temps (w/ oc to 3.27). It's a combination of the HSF ....AND the large case.......kinda like cooling a car, you can have a great radiator but if you don't have air exchange around it, it will not be that effective.

Thermalright s120 worked pretty good for me. A TR True will beat it, but it is not a bad cooler. Newegg.com - Thermalright SI-120 High Performance CPU Cooling Heatsink - CPU Fans & Heatsinks

Might fit in your case.

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