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Old 09-July-06, 02:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Athlon XP 3000+ VS AMD 64 3500+

Can anyone give me some advice on these two chips? I currently have an Athlon XP 3000+ and I will be upgrading to socket 939 very soon. I already have my board and I am going to purchase a AMD 64 3500+. Being that this new CPU is only single-core, can anyone tell me if I am going to see a significant increase in speed?
Eventually I will be upgrading to an Opty 165 or higher, but for now I just want to go 64-bit. Any help/advice is appreciated.
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Old 09-July-06, 02:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Athlon XP 3000+ VS AMD 64 3500+

Buy a cheap CPU and get the opty faster with the money you save.

I would just get a 3000 64 so you could get more money for the opty.
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i believe the cost of an Opteron 144 is around or less than tha of a Athlon 64 3500....so i would just go with the 144, overclock the piss out of it, and you might find that you wont even be tempted to go with the 165...
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i believe the cost of an Opteron 144 is around or less than tha of a Athlon 64 3500....so i would just go with the 144, overclock the piss out of it, and you might find that you wont even be tempted to go with the 165...

I forgot to mention, I am buying the 3500+ used for way less than retail. Does that change your opinion?


Edit: the Opteron 144 is $174.99 and the AMD 64 3500+ is $109. Also, the opteron 144 is only single core and the 165 is dual core, so I will definately be going dual core eventually.
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Default Re: Athlon XP 3000+ VS AMD 64 3500+

That depends, how much are you buying for?
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yeah, i was making a wreckless speculation there, i try and keep my margin for error pretty high when im talkin out my ass
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Can anyone give me some advice on these two chips? I currently have an Athlon XP 3000+ and I will be upgrading to socket 939 very soon. I already have my board and I am going to purchase a AMD 64 3500+. Being that this new CPU is only single-core, can anyone tell me if I am going to see a significant increase in speed?
Eventually I will be upgrading to an Opty 165 or higher, but for now I just want to go 64-bit. Any help/advice is appreciated.

Yes, there will be huge jump in performance, even at the same clock speed... the AMD-64 will feel much more responsive to every day taks like surfing the web, games will load faster and have higher frame rates too.

The big reason for the performance gain is AMD moved the memory controller off the motherboard onto the CPU itself! This reduces "Latency" by a large amount, greatly improving its "Feel"

Just run the 1MB super pi test on the old rig and compare it to your new one, it should drop from the 40~50 secoond range down into the 30~40 second range.

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I currently have an Athlon XP 3000+ and I will be upgrading to socket 939 very soon

You should really upgrade to AM2... It makes more sense.
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You should really upgrade to AM2... It makes more sense.

Trust me, I would love to upgrade to AM2! Only problem is, I have a basically brand new DFI board setting here that I have never even booted, and before I got it I wanted one for like a year, so I will be staying with the socket 939 for a while. I am currently unemployed and I am making money however I can, so I can't see upgrading to AM2 for at least another year and by then it will probably be obsolete.

Necro, thanks for the helpful reply! That settles it then, I will be going for the 3500+ withing a week or two, now the only problem is I don't have a PCIe videocard!
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Necro: You were right on the money, I got 50.372 seconds. Can't wait to go 64-bit.
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