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Old 21-June-06, 02:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm curious as to what needs upgrading on my system. I'm tired of the long load times on battlefield 2 and some other games on steam. I dont know what it is with my computer but sometimes it just sounds like it's just working to hard for the task it's performing and my brother said the same thing. What would cause this? I reformatted the other day and that seemed to help some

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Old 21-June-06, 03:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm curious as to what needs upgrading on my system. I'm tired of the long load times on battlefield 2 and some other games on steam. I dont know what it is with my computer but sometimes it just sounds like it's just working to hard for the task it's performing and my brother said the same thing. What would cause this? I reformatted the other day and that seemed to help some

Any ideas?


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1 gig of Crucial Ram Pc 2700
Nvidia 7800 Gt Video Card
450 watt power supply

No question about it, another gig of ram. Steam apps will use near a gig of ram on their own,combine this with XP's own memory use and you're soon paging to the hdd. It's also well documented that BF2 requires 1.5~2 gigs of ram to operate on full settings (or near full).
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More RAM would definitely be a good investment. FEAR and other newer games need ~2gb so its not just BF2 that would benefit.
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Old 21-June-06, 08:21 AM   #4 (permalink)
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More RAM would definitely be a good investment. FEAR and other newer games need ~2gb so its not just BF2 that would benefit.

totally agree with the ram assesment but if you have the $$$ i would throw an X2 series processor in there but thats me!
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I'm curious as to what needs upgrading on my system. I'm tired of the long load times on battlefield 2 and some other games on steam. I dont know what it is with my computer but sometimes it just sounds like it's just working to hard for the task it's performing and my brother said the same thing. What would cause this? I reformatted the other day and that seemed to help some

Any ideas?


Currently i have
Amd 64 3500
Dfi Lanparty Ut Nf4 Motherboard
1 gig of Crucial Ram Pc 2700
Nvidia 7800 Gt Video Card
450 watt power supply

I would also say another stick 1gig of ram that would help you out, but make sure you MotherBoard can support that much ram, and you might also want to make sure there is no other programs or software running in the start up or background that would not need to be running that also would cause your PC to run really slow.
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I would say get some good RAM...
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I would also say another stick 1gig of ram that would help you out, but make sure you MotherBoard can support that much ram, and you might also want to make sure there is no other programs or software running in the start up or background that would not need to be running that also would cause your PC to run really slow.

He is using a DFI LP, there should be no problem with 2GB's of ram, he can probably use 4GB if he wanted to..In fact most NF-4 based boards will, along with just about any modern premium board.

Just remember when upgrading RAM on AMD-64, if you run 4 sticks of 512, you MUST set it manually to use 2T or it won't boot up, using 2x1GB sticks will allow you to keep 1T timings for better performance!

2GB is definately what you need, 4GB won't be fully utilized by XP, it will only see around 3.5GB's...you will need Vista for it to work properly..as of now there are not many programs that can benefit from 4GB anyways.
( XP 64bit edition would probably work too)
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Just remember when upgrading RAM on AMD-64, if you run 4 sticks of 512, you MUST set it manually to use 2T or it won't boot up, using 2x1GB sticks will allow you to keep 1T timings for better performance!


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2t ant 1t whats that all about i need to know how to fix that because I didn't know that you had to change anything to get the second set of ram to work whats that all about... it would be great if you could explain tat further... I would love to get that second GB up and running on my rig
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2T is CPC off (Command Per Clock) 1T is CPC on.

1T can offer a nice performance gain over 1T, but the memory controller on AMD64 does not work properly with it enabled when using 4 sticks.

2T offers more stabilty in some situations including Overcl****ing at extremely high FSB speeds.

In the bios under the memory section, you will find the option, it may not appear if your memory is set to "Auto"or "SPD"

You have to set it to "Manual" or "User Defined" sometimes to see other options.

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EDIT: I alos suggest you ditch the PC2700 you have instead of adding to more like it, and get 2x1GB of PC3200 or higher ram.

You are leaving some performance behind at DDR333!
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2T is CPC off (Command Per Clock) 1T is CPC on.

1T can offer q nice performance gain over 1T, but the memory controller on AMD64 does not work properly with it enabled when using 4 sticks.

In the bios under the memory section, you will find the option, it may not appear if your memory is set to "Auto"or "SPD"

You have to set it to "Manual" or "User Defined" sometimes to see other options.

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I suggest you ditch the PC2700 you have instead of adding to more like it, and get 2x1GB of PC3200 or higher ram.
You are leaving some performance behind at DDR333!


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He is using a DFI LP, there should be no problem with 2GB's of ram, he can probably use 4GB if he wanted to..In fact most NF-4 based boards will, along with just about any modern premium board.

Just remember when upgrading RAM on AMD-64, if you run 4 sticks of 512, you MUST set it manually to use 2T or it won't boot up, using 2x1GB sticks will allow you to keep 1T timings for better performance!

2GB is definately what you need, 4GB won't be fully utilized by XP, it will only see around 3.5GB's...you will need Vista for it to work properly..as of now there are not many programs that can benefit from 4GB anyways.
( XP 64bit edition would probably work too)

Ok i was just trying to help out thanks for the heads up.
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Ok i was just trying to help out thanks for the heads up.

You were completely correct in your reply, good $SOLID$ advice....I just expanded upon it
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Old 22-June-06, 03:46 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Alright thanks for the ideas.

I'm probably going to upgrade to a 2Gb stick of like Pc 3200 or maybe something faster.
Might as well get a X2 series processor but im going to wait for them to drop in price first.
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If you're going to get an x2 wait for ages. Your proc is fine as it is.
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