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Old 12-June-06, 09:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 3500+ to 3800+?
Ok right now i have a AMD 3500+ and i want to buy a 3800+ for 150 on newegg.
Will i see any diffence. and will it OC higher some kid said it wont go any hire than my 3500+ could.
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Old 12-June-06, 10:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: 3500+ to 3800+?
That would all depend on your mobo,ram and cooling topped off with a healthy serving of O.C prowess.

My own Biased opinion is that its a waste of money,unless of course you plan on using the 3500 for folding.
Then it's all good.
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Ok right now i have a AMD 3500+ and i want to buy a 3800+ for 150 on newegg.
Will i see any diffence. and will it OC higher some kid said it wont go any hire than my 3500+ could.

Now first what core do you have, if you don't know then you need to get CPU-Z

Second I have personally OCed a 3500 to over 2.7GHz and it was runing about 45 load at that point, Personally i haven't got my habdon a 3800 yet, but the average OC on the chip is about the same on the 3500 and 3800 both around 2.7-2.8 (info via hwbot avg OC)

But also it has alot to do with your board and memory
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Ok right now i have a AMD 3500+ and i want to buy a 3800+ for 150 on newegg.
Will i see any diffence. and will it OC higher some kid said it wont go any hire than my 3500+ could.


Consider why you may be upgrading.

I don't think you will get any appreciable increase for the price.

Are you looking to build a second rig? If not then you could look into selling the 3500 after
the 3800 is installed.

IMHO it aint worth the time and cash to upgrade the 3500+ just for the sake of upgrade.

But you did not specify if the 3500 is a sempron and your trying to upgrade to a 64 3800??

Post some links for compairson for the 3500 you have and the 3800 you are contemplating.
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Default Re: 3500+ to 3800+?
ok, i have an Asus A8N SLI deluxe. 1 gig of ram. and the 3500+ core is venice rev.E3. and the highest i ever got was 2.7ghz not stable and 2.6 was stable. and i just order the Nuctua NH-U 12. Should get here Wednesday.
I had a venus 12.
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ok, i have an Asus A8N SLI deluxe. 1 gig of ram. and the 3500+ core is venice rev.E3. and the highest i ever got was 2.7ghz not stable and 2.6 was stable. and i just order the Nuctua NH-U 12. Should get here Wednesday.
I had a venus 12.

Yep no need to upgrade chips, with that noctua, you should get to 2.7 stable, if not higher, thats a good core too, definately not worth the upgrade
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Default Re: 3500+ to 3800+?
Yup save the 150 on the 3800 and aply it to your next FULL build or think about other upgrades.
Maby a better GPU, RAM or SLI.

But upgrading your CPU just now may not be the best way to invest in your rig.
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Default Re: 3500+ to 3800+?
going to save until 2-2-07 and go all out.

PS. i'm trading my ABIT AV8 3rd eye for a 3000+ 754 and a MSI mobo.
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The OC ability will be in the same range, the major difference is the 3800+ will have a higher default speed of 2.4GHZ

Oddly, you would be better off with the 2.2GHZ 3700+, it has 1MB cache, the 2.2GHZ 3500+ has only 512K.

http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...ricewatch&NR=1

Think of it as a stick of RAM built on the CPU itself, more is better!

The best deal is the Opteron 146, they have the 1MB cache and will work in a regular board..typical OC results are in the 2.8~3.0+GHZ range if your board will run 300FSB.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ATT=19-103-598

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http://forums.pcapex.com/pcapex_dail...d_64s_200.html
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Got my 3700+ to 2.95 stable
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Default Re: 3500+ to 3800+?
I got my 3800 X2 to 2.8 Unstable but it was going at 42 degrees celcius.
I have a stock cooler because i cant really bothered to get a new one, i am looking at a zalman fatality one, at the moment im just keeping it at 2.3 but thinking about putting it up to 2.6 but i really need better cooling. so what would you recommend for a socket 939 3800+ X2?
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The Big Typhoon with a 120MM MM fan that is well over 100CFM is what I am using currently

X-2's are much harder to cool than a single core, you realy need to step it up a notch with them.

http://reviews.pcapex.com/cooling/th...cpu_cooler.php

Zally 9500 is not bad, but the fan speed is a bit low for serious OC's and can't be changed.

http://reviews.pcapex.com/cooling/za...cpu_cooler.php

There are a few others out there that do very well, but it's late and I'm tired....

Water cooling is also a good option for these heat monsters, you can get a very complete high end kit these days for 150~200$

http://www.dangerdenstore.com/produc...&cat=65&page=1
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Get a Noctua U12 and a High CFM fan, the big typhoon is nice but the statistics show theres only one better, the Noctua's

Check out the reveiw

http://reviews.pcapex.com/cooling/no...ler.php?page=4
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Thanks for the info, would you know where to get that in australia by any chance lol?

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What about the Scythe Ninja, isn't that supposed to be the best bet?
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I have a 3800+, and I love it. I've had it OC@2.2Ghz since the day I got it with no stability problems. It really depends on what you want to do with it though. I use my PC for web development, and run apache/mysql on it, so dual core was a natural choice.
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I have a 3800+, and I love it. I've had it OC@2.2Ghz since the day I got it with no stability problems. It really depends on what you want to do with it though. I use my PC for web development, and run apache/mysql on it, so dual core was a natural choice.

He was reffereing to a 150$ single core 3800+, not the X-2 3800+ wich is double the price....that would be worthy of an upgrade!
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