Design PC Recommendations

Grumblestiltskin · 10-May-06, 01:01 PM

hey PCA,

Need some advice...

Which is gonna be better

Dual Core Intel Xeon 2.8
Single Core Intel Xeon 3.8

Raid 0 Sata 10K drives
SCSI 15K drive

Can anyone give me some feedback?

Regards,
G

PS This PC is gonna be using very large files for a large format printer. (filters, big file size, etc.)

HigHTecHReDNecK · 10-May-06, 01:31 PM

My .02 , the dual core would be better for multi task functions, and you wont gain much more speed from 2.8 to 3.8 to beat a dual core in that area, also ramp up the ram and you'll be kickin'. As for SCSI or SATA , that depends on your funding SCSI 15k raid is gonna be faster but the drives are $$$$$$$$, not to mention a good raid controller for SCSI ( if not onboard ) is $300+ alone. so in that area I'd say its all about the money you wanna spend, if you have the cash - SCSI , if you dont, SATA 10K's are damn good too.

Im_gumby · 10-May-06, 01:44 PM

On the plus side of the SCSIs (or any RAID array for that matter), when you are running them off a card, there is no need to reformat the drives if you move the array from one machine to another.

With onboard SATA RAID, if you upgrade to a newer motherboard, chances are your controller would be different, which would require reformatting.

godfoot · 10-May-06, 02:01 PM

All of these recommendations are valid, but first and foremost you will want as much RAM as you can possibly stuff in there.

reflux · 10-May-06, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grumblestiltskin


	hey PCA, Need some advice... Which is gonna be better Dual Core Intel Xeon 2.8 Single Core Intel Xeon 3.8 Raid 0 Sata 10K drives SCSI 15K drive Can anyone give me some feedback? Regards, G PS This PC is gonna be using very large files for a large format printer. (filters, big file size, etc.)

What exactly is it that you're designing? Godfoot's right though, get as much RAM as you can.

Sn0wMan · 10-May-06, 02:42 PM

I would have to say it definately depends on what you are using it for. Try this.. http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html
It will let you decide how to get the most "bang for your buck."

The Dragon Reborn · 10-May-06, 02:42 PM

Idd... & forget about Raid 0.... you'd better invest in a good Raid 1 setup.... or better yet,
a Raid 10 (0/1) card... then you've combined the safety of Raid 1 with the speed of Raid 0....

Call me cautious... but when a Raid 0 setup fails... you're 'screwed....

TDR

Im_gumby · 10-May-06, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dragon Reborn


	.... or better yet, a Raid 10 (0/1) card... then you've combined the safety of Raid 1 with the speed of Raid 0.... Call me cautious... but when a Raid 0 setup fails... you're 'screwed.... TDR

Or you can buy Norton Ghost and backup your RAID 0 array to a separate drive... a cheaper manual version of RAID 10.

UndisputedChamp · 10-May-06, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Im_gumby


	Or you can buy Norton Ghost and backup your RAID 0 array to a separate drive... a cheaper manual version of RAID 10.

Ghost is awesome!
I bought it at CompUSA with Norton AntiVirus for like 50 bucks. It's easy to use and worth it.
If you don't mind backing up your data, then Raid0 will be fine.

Grumblestiltskin · 10-May-06, 03:18 PM

I'm looking for speed not redundancy.
This is only gonna have the OS and a couple of design proggies.
Looking for pure crunching power for dealing with editing 200meg +raster files... using filters, resizing, and etc.

godfoot · 11-May-06, 12:51 AM

Yeah, you really wouldn't need a RAID array on a workstation (although RAID 1 wouldn't be bad)....especially if you have a separate file server.
Lots of RAM, the latest SATA 3.0 HDDs (for temp storage as it is always faster working with a local image), and a dual core CPU should be bare necessities for a design station in my opinion, at least nowadays.

PurpleDiamond · 11-May-06, 11:13 PM

The new hybrid flash harddrives could bring a nice boost in perfomance. How soon do you need this system? if you can I think that you should wait for conroe.

10-May-06, 01:01 PM		#1 (permalink)
Grumblestiltskin Custom Grille Guru	Design PC Recommendations hey PCA, Need some advice... Which is gonna be better Dual Core Intel Xeon 2.8 Single Core Intel Xeon 3.8 Raid 0 Sata 10K drives SCSI 15K drive Can anyone give me some feedback? Regards, G PS This PC is gonna be using very large files for a large format printer. (filters, big file size, etc.)

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10-May-06, 01:31 PM		#2 (permalink)
HigHTecHReDNecK Sophist'Hoe"cated ReDNecK Reviewer	My .02 , the dual core would be better for multi task functions, and you wont gain much more speed from 2.8 to 3.8 to beat a dual core in that area, also ramp up the ram and you'll be kickin'. As for SCSI or SATA , that depends on your funding SCSI 15k raid is gonna be faster but the drives are $$$$$$$$, not to mention a good raid controller for SCSI ( if not onboard ) is $300+ alone. so in that area I'd say its all about the money you wanna spend, if you have the cash - SCSI , if you dont, SATA 10K's are damn good too.

10-May-06, 01:44 PM		#3 (permalink)
Im_gumby Slightly Silly Moderator	On the plus side of the SCSIs (or any RAID array for that matter), when you are running them off a card, there is no need to reformat the drives if you move the array from one machine to another. With onboard SATA RAID, if you upgrade to a newer motherboard, chances are your controller would be different, which would require reformatting.

10-May-06, 02:01 PM		#4 (permalink)
godfoot A George Orwell fan...sorta	All of these recommendations are valid, but first and foremost you will want as much RAM as you can possibly stuff in there.

10-May-06, 02:42 PM		#6 (permalink)
Sn0wMan Apex Tech Demi-God	I would have to say it definately depends on what you are using it for. Try this.. http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html It will let you decide how to get the most "bang for your buck."

10-May-06, 02:42 PM		#7 (permalink)
The Dragon Reborn Apex Elite Expert Tech	Idd... & forget about Raid 0.... you'd better invest in a good Raid 1 setup.... or better yet, a Raid 10 (0/1) card... then you've combined the safety of Raid 1 with the speed of Raid 0.... Call me cautious... but when a Raid 0 setup fails... you're 'screwed.... TDR

10-May-06, 03:18 PM		#10 (permalink)
Grumblestiltskin Custom Grille Guru	I'm looking for speed not redundancy. This is only gonna have the OS and a couple of design proggies. Looking for pure crunching power for dealing with editing 200meg +raster files... using filters, resizing, and etc.

11-May-06, 12:51 AM		#11 (permalink)
godfoot A George Orwell fan...sorta	Yeah, you really wouldn't need a RAID array on a workstation (although RAID 1 wouldn't be bad)....especially if you have a separate file server. Lots of RAM, the latest SATA 3.0 HDDs (for temp storage as it is always faster working with a local image), and a dual core CPU should be bare necessities for a design station in my opinion, at least nowadays.

11-May-06, 11:13 PM		#12 (permalink)
PurpleDiamond Apex Tech Maniac Supreme	The new hybrid flash harddrives could bring a nice boost in perfomance. How soon do you need this system? if you can I think that you should wait for conroe.