Adobe reader help

DuckWarrior · 28-June-05, 09:28 PM

The wife is an Interpreter and asked me if you can type over an Adobe reader document.
I do not know of any way but I thought to ask you Pimps.
To clarify, she has a document sent to her as an adobe reader doc. and its easier for her to change the text as she goes.
Does anyone know a way to do this?

BigAkita · 28-June-05, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DuckWarrior


	The wife is an Interpreter and asked me if you can type over an Adobe reader document. I do not know of any way but I thought to ask you Pimps. To clarify, she has a document sent to her as an adobe reader doc. and its easier for her to change the text as she goes. Does anyone know a way to do this?

I do Duck. Shoot me a message to my work email tomorrow.

Haitian Sensation · 28-June-05, 09:42 PM

Je vous remercie enormÃƒÂ©ment! Vous ÃƒÂªtes trÃƒÂ¨s gentil de m'aider. (Thank you!)

AntiM · 28-June-05, 10:11 PM

Much depends on how the PDF was created. If the fonts were not subsetted or outlined you can edit text with Acrobat pro and some third party software. Reader though won't do it. Kind of a pain to do it that way anyway.

But if the fonts are intact and you don't need to worry about font matching, you should be able to use the text tool to hi-lite, then copy and paste into a word editor with much or all of the formating intact.

Digital-World · 29-June-05, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Haitian Sensation


	Je vous remercie enormÃƒÂ©ment! Vous ÃƒÂªtes trÃƒÂ¨s gentil de m'aider. (Thank you!)

I thank you enormously, You are very kind to help me?
rusty I feel.

Highperf15 · 29-June-05, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Haitian Sensation


	Je vous remercie enormÃƒÂ©ment! Vous ÃƒÂªtes trÃƒÂ¨s gentil de m'aider. (Thank you!)

Looks french to me...........

godfoot · 29-June-05, 10:51 AM

To add to what AntiM said, you will need to have the font that was used to create the PDF on your machine as well. If the PDF was created on a Mac, you may or may not have the correct font installed.
I also have a way to help if BA's way doesn't work. Lemme know.

DuckWarrior · 29-June-05, 10:57 AM

BA needs to check his email....

BigAkita · 29-June-05, 03:14 PM

He's just a damn slacker.

Haitian Sensation · 01-July-05, 12:04 PM

I am using the program DuckWarrior installed. The document I am currently working on is a brochure for Broward County College. I wish to edit the current text, replace the text as I type but he best I can do is have the program line through the text. It places an arrow that shows the replaced text, but only if you place the cursor over the arrow.
I am so sorry to have you go through all this trouble, but can anyone give me assistance with this?
Thank you

FunkyFresh · 01-July-05, 12:18 PM

I feel your pain! I've had to edit PDF's a good amount at work. Yuck.

You could get something like SolidPDF or DocSmartz. There are a bunch of apps like these out there; one of them might have a full-featured trial version. Then you could convert the document to MS Word format and make changes there.

PDF's weren't really meant to be edited. That's not to say it isn't possible, it's just a royal pain in the behind (and that's when it does work).

Graaille · 01-July-05, 12:26 PM

It sounds like whatever program you are using is doing versioning. (i.e. keeps original text plus the updated text) Are you using Acrobat Pro, or some other software (looking back thru the posts, did not see any names mentioned).

Usually, in the land of Microsoft, most programs can differentiate between insert typing and overtypeing. At a guess, press the insert key one time and see if that changes the way the program behaves. Otherwise, a bit more details about the software and version will allow us to provide more assistance.

Haitian Sensation · 01-July-05, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Graaille


	It sounds like whatever program you are using is doing versioning. (i.e. keeps original text plus the updated text) Are you using Acrobat Pro, or some other software (looking back thru the posts, did not see any names mentioned). Usually, in the land of Microsoft, most programs can differentiate between insert typing and overtypeing. At a guess, press the insert key one time and see if that changes the way the program behaves. Otherwise, a bit more details about the software and version will allow us to provide more assistance.

I am using Adobe Acrobat Standard 6.0, I tried using the insert key to see what will happen, nothing different from what I discussed prior.

Graaille · 01-July-05, 01:06 PM

http://www.htctu.net/trainings/manua...sible_PDFs.pdf

from page 8:

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Originally Posted by document


	Adobe Acrobat 6.0 continues to separate presentation from content when using a PDF file. Older versions of PDF may have been created using Acrobat versions previous to version 6, made without using the style elements of Microsoft Office to format the presentation of the document, or another program that exports to PDF. The result is a PDF document that does not contain a "tagged" document structure making it more difficult for assistive computer technology to gain access to the document information. In fact, the PDF document may actually be only a "picture" of the information (i.e., Image-Only PDF) with no underlying text information. Working with the original file the PDF document was created from can be more precise in creating a "tagged" document structure and result in improved access to the information by assistive computer technology. The following recommendations are designed to provide guidance when having to choose what type of method is most appropriate to create an accessible PDF document.

Perhaps there is something in the link that can help you immediately, but I'm checking other resources. My version is 5.0, so I'm having to do some looking to see what's different before I point you in a possible wrong direction.

godfoot · 01-July-05, 02:00 PM

When I did prepress, our company had guidelines for how our customers sent in their PDFs and if they didn't follow those guidelines we wouldn't accept them (that was how it was supposed to work at least, the owner would let some companies slide and make more work for us..... thus decreasing our efficiency which he was constantly griping about).
Much of what you want to do depends on the original PDF to begin with. If it wasn't created for editable text from the start then you will have problems.
The solution we used at work for uneditable text requires a page layout program to help fix (no, MS Publisher won't help here) by laying it out using the original PDF, setting guides where the text is, opening the original PDF in Photoshop at 300dpi and erase the text, then provide our own text from within the page layout program (typically Quark XPress, Pagemaker, or InDesign).
Not a perfect solution, but it works.

28-June-05, 09:28 PM		#1 (permalink)
DuckWarrior Retired Admin In Charge of Death and Destruction to All those Who Oppose My World known as PimpRig	Adobe reader help The wife is an Interpreter and asked me if you can type over an Adobe reader document. I do not know of any way but I thought to ask you Pimps. To clarify, she has a document sent to her as an adobe reader doc. and its easier for her to change the text as she goes. Does anyone know a way to do this?

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28-June-05, 09:42 PM		#3 (permalink)
Haitian Sensation Duck's Chick	Je vous remercie enormÃƒÂ©ment! Vous ÃƒÂªtes trÃƒÂ¨s gentil de m'aider. (Thank you!)

28-June-05, 10:11 PM		#4 (permalink)
AntiM Aqua Pimp	Much depends on how the PDF was created. If the fonts were not subsetted or outlined you can edit text with Acrobat pro and some third party software. Reader though won't do it. Kind of a pain to do it that way anyway. But if the fonts are intact and you don't need to worry about font matching, you should be able to use the text tool to hi-lite, then copy and paste into a word editor with much or all of the formating intact.

29-June-05, 10:51 AM		#7 (permalink)
godfoot A George Orwell fan...sorta	To add to what AntiM said, you will need to have the font that was used to create the PDF on your machine as well. If the PDF was created on a Mac, you may or may not have the correct font installed. I also have a way to help if BA's way doesn't work. Lemme know.

29-June-05, 10:57 AM		#8 (permalink)
DuckWarrior Retired Admin In Charge of Death and Destruction to All those Who Oppose My World known as PimpRig	BA needs to check his email....

29-June-05, 03:14 PM		#9 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer	He's just a damn slacker.

01-July-05, 12:04 PM		#10 (permalink)
Haitian Sensation Duck's Chick	I am using the program DuckWarrior installed. The document I am currently working on is a brochure for Broward County College. I wish to edit the current text, replace the text as I type but he best I can do is have the program line through the text. It places an arrow that shows the replaced text, but only if you place the cursor over the arrow. I am so sorry to have you go through all this trouble, but can anyone give me assistance with this? Thank you

01-July-05, 12:18 PM		#11 (permalink)
FunkyFresh 'Da Doctor of Funk	I feel your pain! I've had to edit PDF's a good amount at work. Yuck. You could get something like SolidPDF or DocSmartz. There are a bunch of apps like these out there; one of them might have a full-featured trial version. Then you could convert the document to MS Word format and make changes there. PDF's weren't really meant to be edited. That's not to say it isn't possible, it's just a royal pain in the behind (and that's when it does work).

01-July-05, 12:26 PM		#12 (permalink)
Graaille Apex Master Tech	It sounds like whatever program you are using is doing versioning. (i.e. keeps original text plus the updated text) Are you using Acrobat Pro, or some other software (looking back thru the posts, did not see any names mentioned). Usually, in the land of Microsoft, most programs can differentiate between insert typing and overtypeing. At a guess, press the insert key one time and see if that changes the way the program behaves. Otherwise, a bit more details about the software and version will allow us to provide more assistance.

01-July-05, 02:00 PM		#15 (permalink)
godfoot A George Orwell fan...sorta	When I did prepress, our company had guidelines for how our customers sent in their PDFs and if they didn't follow those guidelines we wouldn't accept them (that was how it was supposed to work at least, the owner would let some companies slide and make more work for us..... thus decreasing our efficiency which he was constantly griping about). Much of what you want to do depends on the original PDF to begin with. If it wasn't created for editable text from the start then you will have problems. The solution we used at work for uneditable text requires a page layout program to help fix (no, MS Publisher won't help here) by laying it out using the original PDF, setting guides where the text is, opening the original PDF in Photoshop at 300dpi and erase the text, then provide our own text from within the page layout program (typically Quark XPress, Pagemaker, or InDesign). Not a perfect solution, but it works.