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Old 01-October-02, 03:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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this is prolly stupid and every1 would make fun of me but here it goes

y not put a Peltier (lower wattege 1) inside a water block....then it would cool the water and then the pump would push the cold water around....making temps drop

am i an idiot or this just might work?
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Old 01-October-02, 03:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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going to be tryin that and lc already did that
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Old 01-October-02, 04:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I don thtink he cooled it inside the water block. Arent there two sides to a pelt, one hot and one cold. thus making cooling water redundant. heating and cooling the water at the same time. i could also just be misunderstanding what your trying to say.
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Old 01-October-02, 06:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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a hotside and a cold side? uh i thought it was only cold.....and i dont think ic put it inside his waterblock....but i dont know so well just wait for him
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Old 01-October-02, 06:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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this is whats know as the peltier effect Clown, there is a hot side and a cold side on a peltier.

The peltier effect is basicly when electrical current flows through two dissimilar conductors, heat transfer will occur from the cold side to the hot side
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Old 01-October-02, 07:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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ah o ic thx goat

second idea...attach the cold side of the peltier to a piece of aluminum or sumthing and dip that inside the waterblock...that would cool the water...right?
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Old 01-October-02, 07:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
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second idea...attach the cold side of the peltier to a piece of aluminum or sumthing and dip that inside the waterblock...that would cool the water...right?

Better yet, you could put the cold side against some kind of heat exchanger, run water through it and it would make the water cold!
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Old 01-October-02, 08:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanx for noting my work Monkey.

You can read about what I did here. I did it as a "Proof of Concept" meaning that the principles are all OK even if the final outcome wasn't anything to get too excited about. Guys have attached peltiers to heatsinks and hung them upside down inside of reservoirs, etc.

I think my idea works better because your not trying to cool a large volume of water, just whats flowing through the water block.

I have been hoping that someone would take what I did and do it a little better. The water block I chose was a looser, too cheaply made and I recommend a swiftech block instead, solid construction and good volume and will go 1/2". A larger peltier and a dedicated PSU would be next, but not an ATX PSU, a dedicated one that puts out higher whattage and amperage to properly power a bigger peltier.

I have been wanting to take it further but the cost,(wife), has held me back. If one of you make it kick, I will be happy so don't let me hold you back. I wrote the article so you could use what I learned.
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Old 01-October-02, 08:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
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how much would the cheapes/deacent watercooling setup run me?
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Old 01-October-02, 08:59 PM   #10 (permalink)
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$200 give or take.

You can get by cheaper, cut a couple of corners.

Decent Pumps run $60 and up.

A good CPU waterblock will start at $40 to $75.

A radiator runs about $40 and up.

A fan, tubing, fittings, hose clamps, etc. It adds up.

My best suggestion, don't pay money for anything not good enough to keep. Buy good stuff, even if you have to wait awhile. Do your research and know WHY you want to water cool.
Performance
Neccessity
Quiet
Portability
Wow

Take your pick and ask questions, but have a very good idea of what you want to achieve, that way you don't get started and go down the wrong road. It is expensive to have to turn around

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Old 01-October-02, 09:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i still have douts bout it.....like i would still have to have case fans...and radiator fans....so how does that make it quiter?

and it owuld be a pain in the ass to carry to lan parties....and $200 is alot of cash ( well at least for me at this point of time)

i just bought the thermalright ax-7 for mi system and a tornado fan lol
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Old 04-October-02, 12:07 PM   #12 (permalink)
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its loud as hell clown LOL, i can barely hear myself type over my tornado.
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Old 04-October-02, 12:21 PM   #13 (permalink)
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A friend designed his own water blocks and such and is using his wifes radiator from her 86 ford escort and 120mm fans and is very happy with it.
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Old 04-October-02, 12:56 PM   #14 (permalink)
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i still have douts bout it.....like i would still have to have case fans...and radiator fans....so how does that make it quiter?

and it owuld be a pain in the ass to carry to lan parties....and $200 is alot of cash

You really only need one fan with H2O cooling.
INSIDE

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And if you build a closed system (no big open resovoir) its just as easy to move as an air cooled system
My closed system

but as you also realised the big downside is the cost

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Old 04-October-02, 01:03 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Doh I forgot to post something.

Regarding cooling if your radiator can handle it you could rig a peltier up to it so it heats the water going into the radiator and cools the water going back to the CPU
This can be done with any size peltier you can get your hands on I was going to do this but the peltier I was going to use "disapered"
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