i have an idea

Dimazz · 04-August-03, 11:15 PM

i found 2 of the same pelts on ebay, for dirt cheap. so my idea. make a heatsink/radiator thing out of copper and put the pelts on either side. so you have a very cold radiator/heatsink thing. then put a big fan with a duct going to the cpu wich already has a sk-7 on it. the pelts are 85 watt.

sorry for the pic i hate doodling in ps but my paint is broken.

Xphobe · 05-August-03, 12:38 AM

Well first off, pelters dont work that way. Pelters dont produce cold, they just transfer heat (energy) from one side of it, to the other. So if the other side of the pelter isnt cooled off, it will burn up almost instantly.

Second of all, if the radiator gets that cold, you will have alot of condensation to worry about.
You would be better off just makeing a small A/C system, which would be quite crazy, but i have seen it one time in a picture (it probably weighed close to 90lbs).

You have a good imagination though. With just a little bit more knowledge you might become very rich.

Rewind · 05-August-03, 01:11 AM

i am not trying to be a jerk man but that doole is great it made me laugh when i saw it

your idea was good though

TiZakit · 05-August-03, 01:39 AM

put a water block on each side of it... that would be funny!

Dimazz · 05-August-03, 09:39 AM

but say if i did cool off the pelts on either side would it work? and i would just keep the thing running 24/7 so nothing would heat back up and make condensation. so i could turn the computer off but this would be running off of another power supply and it would stay frozen. and one more thing do pelts ever go bad so if i left it on all the time would it fail on me?

ya, if i had that kind of money i would just get watercooling, thats why im here thinking of bullsh1t like this.

invent83 · 05-August-03, 09:55 AM

yes if you did cool off te pelts on either side it should work.

Keeping anything running 24/7 is bound to have issues someday.

I would suggest adding more fans to your comp to increase airflow and spending money on bringing your ambient down instead.

ZENNZZO · 05-August-03, 12:11 PM

There is good information all through the forums on cooling. air cooling, water ,TEC/pelts, as well as cryo-cooling. Do some reaserch and soak up as much info as you can. You have proven that you are a thinker, that is good,now get your basic knowledge of how and why cooling works and I'm sure you will come up with twist of your very own, that's cool.

lAnonymousl · 05-August-03, 01:42 PM

Wouldn't this be kind of bulky? SLK+copper contraption+fan+duct? You must have a monster case dude.

I wonder, though, if instead of blowing cold air like this onto the heatsink if you could just make two copper plates and bolt them onto the side fins of the SLK with the peltiers on the other side? But then there's still the problem of cooling them....and that i have no idea what i'm talking about.

Hope all goes well, but i can't imagine anyting like this beating a good peltier directly on the CPU with the slk cooling it.

P.S. --Love the fan drawing.

Dimazz · 05-August-03, 05:45 PM

the problem is i dont have a case yet, if anyone knows where i can get a huge server tower, not one of those cubes but a tower, like 4 feet tall. but for only like 30-40-50 dollars. this is for my comp im building right now.

invent83 · 05-August-03, 05:50 PM

hmmm your best bet ... given your cost restrictions would be to salvage an old case from an IT business or someone that want to throw old stuff out. I know a new poster "MF" found 20 old cases in a dumpster.

He will be posting them on the trading forum soon.

Dimazz · 05-August-03, 05:57 PM

ok let try the cheapest you can find, i dont need no permod garbage either. just biege big ol case. lets say cost with shipping can be 80 dollars. (getting paycheck this friday)

ebay is ok too. ill look there right now.

Monsignor Funkibut · 05-August-03, 08:33 PM

Check these

http://forums.pcapex.com/showthread....&threadid=8139

-MF

Dimazz · 05-August-03, 09:54 PM

i call one!!! do you take paypal?, the biggest one you got

edit: and they have front bezels and back wall things right?

edit edit: and what do you guys think of these pelts, i know they are only 85 watt but they give you 3 of them so thats like 255w. and they still get cold and this is only really going to be an experiment so i want the cheapest stuff to not kill to much money.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=4660

and i also found a case i might want to use its at directron.
http://www.directron.com/hydraulic.html

lAnonymousl · 06-August-03, 01:51 AM

Another mad scientist at work.

They'll be the Peltier Files.

Just make sure you share your findings. I would especially be interested in good alternate cooling methods besides those traditional to PC cooling. GL HF.

Dimazz · 06-August-03, 09:19 AM

i will but dont expect this to be in like 2 days, i still need to buy the stuff and have it come and im only ordering on friday because i dont have any money right now. friday paycheck. i still need to get this coputer running. so expect this in 2-4 weeks. thanks for all the help and peace!

Monsignor Funkibut · 06-August-03, 09:44 AM

NO - no fronts, no backs - like the thread sez these gonna take some work.

You still want - PM me

-MF

04-August-03, 11:15 PM		#1 (permalink)
Dimazz Sk8-Hoe-r	i have an idea i found 2 of the same pelts on ebay, for dirt cheap. so my idea. make a heatsink/radiator thing out of copper and put the pelts on either side. so you have a very cold radiator/heatsink thing. then put a big fan with a duct going to the cpu wich already has a sk-7 on it. the pelts are 85 watt. sorry for the pic i hate doodling in ps but my paint is broken. Attached Thumbnails

05-August-03, 09:54 PM		#13 (permalink)
Dimazz Sk8-Hoe-r	i call one!!! do you take paypal?, the biggest one you got edit: and they have front bezels and back wall things right? edit edit: and what do you guys think of these pelts, i know they are only 85 watt but they give you 3 of them so thats like 255w. and they still get cold and this is only really going to be an experiment so i want the cheapest stuff to not kill to much money. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=4660 and i also found a case i might want to use its at directron. http://www.directron.com/hydraulic.html Last edited by Dimazz; 05-August-03 at 10:30 PM..

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05-August-03, 12:38 AM		#2 (permalink)
Xphobe Apex Techie II	Well first off, pelters dont work that way. Pelters dont produce cold, they just transfer heat (energy) from one side of it, to the other. So if the other side of the pelter isnt cooled off, it will burn up almost instantly. Second of all, if the radiator gets that cold, you will have alot of condensation to worry about. You would be better off just makeing a small A/C system, which would be quite crazy, but i have seen it one time in a picture (it probably weighed close to 90lbs). You have a good imagination though. With just a little bit more knowledge you might become very rich.

05-August-03, 01:11 AM		#3 (permalink)
Rewind Apex Techie I	i am not trying to be a jerk man but that doole is great it made me laugh when i saw it your idea was good though

05-August-03, 01:39 AM		#4 (permalink)
TiZakit Apex Tech Demi-God	put a water block on each side of it... that would be funny!

05-August-03, 09:39 AM		#5 (permalink)
Dimazz Sk8-Hoe-r	but say if i did cool off the pelts on either side would it work? and i would just keep the thing running 24/7 so nothing would heat back up and make condensation. so i could turn the computer off but this would be running off of another power supply and it would stay frozen. and one more thing do pelts ever go bad so if i left it on all the time would it fail on me? ya, if i had that kind of money i would just get watercooling, thats why im here thinking of bullsh1t like this.

05-August-03, 09:55 AM		#6 (permalink)
invent83 Apex Tech Maniac	yes if you did cool off te pelts on either side it should work. Keeping anything running 24/7 is bound to have issues someday. I would suggest adding more fans to your comp to increase airflow and spending money on bringing your ambient down instead.

05-August-03, 12:11 PM		#7 (permalink)
ZENNZZO Direct Cool Hoe	There is good information all through the forums on cooling. air cooling, water ,TEC/pelts, as well as cryo-cooling. Do some reaserch and soak up as much info as you can. You have proven that you are a thinker, that is good,now get your basic knowledge of how and why cooling works and I'm sure you will come up with twist of your very own, that's cool.

05-August-03, 01:42 PM		#8 (permalink)
lAnonymousl The Who? Hoe	Wouldn't this be kind of bulky? SLK+copper contraption+fan+duct? You must have a monster case dude. I wonder, though, if instead of blowing cold air like this onto the heatsink if you could just make two copper plates and bolt them onto the side fins of the SLK with the peltiers on the other side? But then there's still the problem of cooling them....and that i have no idea what i'm talking about. Hope all goes well, but i can't imagine anyting like this beating a good peltier directly on the CPU with the slk cooling it. P.S. --Love the fan drawing.

05-August-03, 05:45 PM		#9 (permalink)
Dimazz Sk8-Hoe-r	the problem is i dont have a case yet, if anyone knows where i can get a huge server tower, not one of those cubes but a tower, like 4 feet tall. but for only like 30-40-50 dollars. this is for my comp im building right now.

05-August-03, 05:50 PM		#10 (permalink)
invent83 Apex Tech Maniac	hmmm your best bet ... given your cost restrictions would be to salvage an old case from an IT business or someone that want to throw old stuff out. I know a new poster "MF" found 20 old cases in a dumpster. He will be posting them on the trading forum soon.

05-August-03, 05:57 PM		#11 (permalink)
Dimazz Sk8-Hoe-r	ok let try the cheapest you can find, i dont need no permod garbage either. just biege big ol case. lets say cost with shipping can be 80 dollars. (getting paycheck this friday) ebay is ok too. ill look there right now.

05-August-03, 08:33 PM		#12 (permalink)
Monsignor Funkibut Master VB Pr'hoe'grammer	Check these http://forums.pcapex.com/showthread....&threadid=8139 -MF

06-August-03, 01:51 AM		#14 (permalink)
lAnonymousl The Who? Hoe	Another mad scientist at work. They'll be the Peltier Files. Just make sure you share your findings. I would especially be interested in good alternate cooling methods besides those traditional to PC cooling. GL HF.

06-August-03, 09:19 AM		#15 (permalink)
Dimazz Sk8-Hoe-r	i will but dont expect this to be in like 2 days, i still need to buy the stuff and have it come and im only ordering on friday because i dont have any money right now. friday paycheck. i still need to get this coputer running. so expect this in 2-4 weeks. thanks for all the help and peace!

06-August-03, 09:44 AM		#16 (permalink)
Monsignor Funkibut Master VB Pr'hoe'grammer	NO - no fronts, no backs - like the thread sez these gonna take some work. You still want - PM me -MF