and an Eheim 1250 to push all that water



and this sweet Black Ice radiator



and a reservoir that i will probably replace with a custom built one once this rig migrates to my project case (if its ever completed) because i freakin hate the way this one looks



all this from Directron and Cooltechnica



Im assuming i can find the connectors and tubing at Lowes or Home Depot and water wetter at auto parts store, right?

Btw you think its a mistake to go with Maze 3's instead of Maze3-1's icpiper? How hard would it be to add pelts to the system I am talking about here? im sure i can email em and change my order if you think this is a viable option =)

Does your mobo have the four holes around the socket for mounting the blocks ?

If not, we will have to locate a suitable mounting bracket.

Oh man i totally forgot about that, i had originally considered these for my chaintech board and it has em, I totally forgot my asus board doesnt /sigh

heres a pic of the board in question



no holes /sigh what can I do for mounting brackets? or do i need to drill some holes? /shudder

Wow!

Sorry totally missed this thread!

Danger Den has socket clamps for socket a boards. Just call and add them to your order.

As for rad placement. I have my rad suspended beneath a 120mm exhaust fan at the top of my case.

I then made a sheet metal / foil tape shroud that sealed the rad to the fan and then tapered to the diameter of a dryer vent hose (about 80mm) this dryer vent hose then ducts to the mobo side of the case.

Therefore the fan sucks cool air from outside the case across the rad, and back out the top of the case.

Here is a link to some pics of my sheit.

Piper - I couldn't figure out why you were telling him to get 2 reservoirs........then I realized there is just two in the pic!

Anyhow, all advice to date has been right on the mark....as usual.

Say Bro, glad you made it too the party

Putwig is correct about the brackets for your blocks, it isn't a big deal.

Now, the reasoning on two radiators was that he has a duel CPU system and if he had opted for a 1/4" setup, an extra radiator, one after each CPU block would work sweet.

But the Danger Den gear is built for 1/2" capable flow rates and with that much water volume he can get away with a single good radiator.

Oops, just caught up to the Peltier questions

I do not recommend peltiers and here are my reasons;

A Peltier (TEC) or thermal electric cooler, is a heat pump. It works by passing a current through two dissimilar materials creating whats called the "Peltier Effect". The heat created moves toward one side of the element which creates a hot side, and a cold side. When you use a Pelt to cool a CPU, the heat generated by the CPU is "pumped" from the cold side to the hot side along with the heat generated by the TEC.
So if your chip produces 80watts of heat, and your Pelt is a 156Watter, then you will have to deal with 156+80=236watts worth of heat . And that would be for both your CPUs, you would need a massive water cooling rig for that.

The truth is that Peltiers were cool for older cooler processors, but the newer "hot" ones mean you have more to cool, the pelt creates more heat, and requires dedicated power supplies just for the TECs.

Then there are problems with condensation to deal with and if a TEC should fail, it will act as an insulator between your chip and the water blocks, you'll fry a chip super fast.

Stick with the straight MAZE3 blocks, and if you want better cooling, I can give you some ideas for water chillers. Devices that can drop your base water temp well below ambient without creating a huge condensation problem.

Yeah water chiller would be neat. I read your article here at pimprig. sounds cool. not sure how id implement it on this case, i do have a lot of room on the rear of the case tho, altho id assume im gonna that room fo a second psu. dual amds eat a lot o watts, and so does water and lights and scsi heh

Piper - two rads would definately be ideal.

When you initially posted with parts pics (all DD) you displayed a pic with two reservoirs. I thought you were saying he should run two reservoirs, two blocks and one rad.

I thought ye were smokin the crack!

Then abyss posted the same pic with two reservoirs and I realized my mistake!

Ablyss....have you given any thought to whether you will run your block in series or parallel? Piper and I dissagree on this issue.

In fact....you try both and get back to us with whichever has the lower temps!

Im leaning towards serial

Yea, if nobody ever did anything different, none of us would ever learn a damn thing

Ill let you guys know how it turns out, gonna try both serial and parallel and run some tests under load and idle

I just hope my Enermax Whisper 431W EG465P-VE(FC)switching Computer Power Supply can take it. I bet Ill have to buy a 550 watter before I put it in the real case with all the lights and scsi. dually amds are power hungry

I don't do watercooling, but it would seem, in theory anyway, that doing them in parallel would be better for cooling. Should be interesting to see what the results of your comparison testing are!

can you help me out with a link to these mounting brackets?

i emailed cooltechnica and they told me there is no such thing for maze3s, i went to dangerden, directron and cooltechnica websites and i couldnt find them

anyone have any excperience with the d-tek tc-4 blocks?



they carry these clips which will work on this block, the Six Tab Xtreme Pressure Waterblock Clip



these look like they might do the trick if they dont suck.


*edit* just got an email from cooltechnica, seems the swiftech mcw372 can come with a 1/2 tubing adaptor, this wont matter tho if the opening is smaller right? wont the smaller channel restrict waterrflow?

Here is another that may do the trick.
It's from Be-Cooling


But the more I think about it, the more I suspect that you should call danger Den and ask them, I think the block is going to be too wide and overhang the socket clips making it pretty tough to get a different type of clamp to work.

I emailed em about an hour ago. If they say it wont work i think im gonna try the dtek blocks with their retention mechanism. Like coel said, if we dont try anything new how else we gonna learn anything? =)

I won't argue with that

Just a thought looking at all the pics of water cooled stuff,any of you guys look into aquarum stores (saltwater fish) a lot of the things look the same and might be a lot cheaper look at skimmers for the reservoir,there is also a very small pump i have used in a sculpture (trying to get ,and remember the name for you guys) that is about 2 inches highand a inch deep that has to be submerged .It doesnt crank as much water as a mag 500 or anything but will still push a fair amout at a decent height and tube length.you can also very the water flow if needed.Granted these are all ideas and thoughts that might helpo out getting by cheaper and would be interested in hearing if they might work with your theories.Also im really curious in how the pumps for a water cooled rig are set up do you all have to turn on the pump externally befor you boot up or is there a way to splice into the powersupply you when you turn on the puter it comes on at the same time? Just a curious question would like to watercool if i ever get the chance to get a mobo that i can really over clock with.

The pumps we use mostly have there origins in Aquarium systems, but the smaller ones arn't up to the job usually.

For power you have basicly three options;
1. Get used to powering up your system and pump with a power strip so you can't turn on the CPU without the pump getting power first.

2. Buy a PSU that has a power connecter for an external defice,(usually a monitor), and plug the pump into the PSU.

3. Buy or make a switching circuit that will sense when the system is powered up and turn on the Pump.

4. There are 12V pumps that can be powered directly from a standard PSU, but you have to be carefull as most of them are not up to 24-7 operation and were designed as "bilge" pumps for limited use.

Thanks Icpiper ,that gives me new knowledge of the day just hope i remember it when and if the time comes to go to h20

Or do what I do and run it off an UPS so it goes 24/7, even if the power goes out. Taking no chances on frying the chip, system will shut down if it reaches 60C.