This is kinda off topic. I'm taking this 'technology' and attempting to apply it to cool the intake of a vehicle. So now I have some questions.

1) I have found 'chillers' at one site; but it was like $350+ for one!! It did not have the dimensions- any good source for these? What kind of cooling expectations should I have? Are they fully submersible?
2) What is a peltier? Brand name- type of cooling block??
3) Wiring. Do most of these products use a straight 12volt connection (car battery?) or do they requiring a switching source (like the PowerSupply?). this is what I know the LEAST about.

Ultimate Goal. Attached is a pic of the stock setup. I'm looking to either 'wrap' the heat exchanger or tap into this stream and find some way EXTREMELY cool this fluid. I know radiator fluid doesn't respond well to cooling like water; but it's what we have right now. I may switch to things like evans coolant or water wetter for better cooling properties.

I think I could mount a 1ft x 6in x 6in tub (plastic) with a chiller in it and run the lines through this? What do you guys think?

BTW : Reading this board motivates me to mod the crap out of my Asus p4p800 w/1.6ghz...

Thanks in Advance for any insight or direction!!

John
'01 Silver Lightning
400hp+/500tq+ rwhp

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You'd be better off throwing your money at a system to cool the intake air of your vehicle, since air is what you have to cram in the cylinder heads to make power. Colder air is denser, which means you can fit more in. Lok for something like forced air induction or an intercooler kit, since I do believe that Lightnig is factory supercharged...

I don't think a chiller or pelts would be practical for what your looking for. Neither are submersible for one. A pelt is basically two pieces of metal. When you add current one side heats up and the other cools down. Enough pelts to do any good would put a massive load on your generator and heat up the engine compartment horribly.

Most chillers are basically low output refrigerator parts in a small packeage. The only thing I can think of that would be practical isn't cost effective. A stirling engine cryo cooler used to cool lasers...about 10 grand though.

You'd be better off running lines from a A/C compressor to a heat exchanger in the reservoir. But again...not terribly practical. But it would work much better than chillers and pelts.

Good information. This is the kind of direction was looking for.

KayinStorm - the intercooler is actually cooling the intake charge; but it's placed after the supercharger. It is very effecient and effective; but is technically just big enoug to keep up. Once you up the 'boost' - the effecciency curve drops off and your boost to power ratio gets ugly. I'm just looking to cool this fluid more effeciently.

This is a 'chiller' ; but it's expensive and I don't know anything about it. http://www.aquastealth.com/product.asp?0=243&1=245&3=96
If this thing is fully submersible, I could replace the stock intercooler resvoir with something bigger (it's been done) and put this chiller in it....

Again- thanks for the feedback; keep any more ideas or thoughts coming.

John

Quote: You'd be better off running lines from a A/C compressor to a heat exchanger in the reservoir. But again...not terribly practical. But it would work much better than chillers and pelts.

This has been considered. I don't completely understand what runs through the lines. Is it freon itself? I know where to locate the lines; but what could I do with them? When you stand on the throttle, the compressor is setup to kick off ... I think I'll stay way from this setup.

Many of us are surprised that nobody has made a kit to mod the A/C setup so it cools the intercooler. I'd sacrifice A/C for this without thinking twice.
I also am looking for ways to cool the brakes. Usually this is just duct work pointed at the brakes; but their has go to be a way to utilize this technology and cool things down.

fyi : At 60f I'll have about 20hp more than at 90f+ ... heat is the enemy with forced air induction.

thanks again for the input.

John

The chiller you linked is not submersible and it runs on house current. It's just a small refrigerator compressor designed to cool down aquariums a few degrees. That's a low end one. They can cost thousands and get rather large.

I'm sure a good refrigerator repair shop could run lines for you from the cars a/c compressor. And yes, the lines carry freon or similiar. So they would need to be properly bent and brazed and leak tested by a licensed pro.

R134a, which is technically non-toxic, provided you don't get it n your skin, where it would act like liquid nitrogen...

Interesting. So I could put a mini 'heat exchanger' or radiator IN the resevoir and run the AC lines through it- that would work? I believe the a/c lines with freon are set to a PSI ; so you know how much freon or 134a you'll need- that won't change.

Ok. Any more thoughts or ideas on cooling.?
I see these 'extreme' cooling setups and see horsepower.

I would be wild to replace all the intercooler lines with the a/c lines... that would cool
Thanks again for the great inputs.

John