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Old 21-December-05, 01:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb Use Car anti-frezze in a watercooling sys>?

could i use like anti frezze u put in a car for my water cooling system im building? if so will it last a long time and not corod anything!

eventuly i am goin to get a dorm fridge and put 2 huge radiators {matching heatercores from saab}
and a huge resavor and 2 submersed pumps in the fridge but that is way down the road when i pimp some more hoes to get some more money!

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Old 21-December-05, 01:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes you can use. Put in some algcide along with it.
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Old 21-December-05, 01:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I used it for half a year just fine. Use Dexcool if you can afford it though; its cooler looking and has a little bit better cooling properties supposidly. I love just car antifreeze because its cheap and effective.
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Old 21-December-05, 02:31 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I used it for half a year just fine. Use Dexcool if you can afford it though; its cooler looking and has a little bit better cooling properties supposidly. I love just car antifreeze because its cheap and effective.

I would CAUTION you not to use Dex-Cool unless you know there will be NO air in the system. Although Dex-Cool works better that regular green Anti-freeze, if you have air pockets in your system , Dex-Cool can and will form a sludge in your system. I cant tell you how long it takes but i know it does for a fact 100%. I worked for GM , and i cant tell you how many people came in wiht clogged heater cores, plugged T-stats etc etc. In every single case it was due to the Dex-cool reacting to the alunium and air in the system. Its a brown sludge and is VERY VERY thick and also VERY hard to clear out of a system once in it.
There was an internal tech bullitain to all tech's and service managers a couple years back. If i can i will find the bullitin , but i remember it because, when a vehical came in with this problem shop time was 4.3hr's to do a complete cooling system flush with acitone/water mix, then neutralizer, then water.

Thats one of the reasons GM started using the plastic pressure jugs in thier vehicals' , so that any air would stay in the jug and not create air pockets in any alunium parts.
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Old 21-December-05, 02:50 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Fair enough DON'T USE DEXCOOL. It's not that COOL to get a clog.
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Old 21-December-05, 02:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I agree about the Dex cool:
IT looks like a good mix for an engine coolant,
its anti-corrosive and the freezing point for a 50/50 mix is at -36.66667*C.

Just add some biocide and a Pelt chiller.

Here would be the flow chain for such a system:

Radiator -> Pump -> TEC chiller -> CPU block -> GPU block(s) -> Resevoir -> Radiator


EDIT: Dang, I didn't know about that problem HighTech-- thanks for the info.

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Old 21-December-05, 03:21 AM   #7 (permalink)
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That would explain why my FORD (i know its not GM but hey they're looney's) has ****ty coolant in it. It's all murky and orange and sludgy. It was obviously not factory Dexcool since thats GM but it looks like dexcool.
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Old 21-December-05, 08:18 AM   #8 (permalink)
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What brands of algcide exist? which are recommended?
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Old 21-December-05, 09:35 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Tons of brands, hit a pet store and look for a small bottle of liquid algaecide. It's cheap and goes a long way. The bottle I have says "Algae Destroyer" on the label.
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Old 21-December-05, 10:30 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Tons of brands, hit a pet store and look for a small bottle of liquid algaecide. It's cheap and goes a long way. The bottle I have says "Algae Destroyer" on the label.

I was thinking of doing the same thing to my system,

I am using Swiftech coolant right now, would it be safe to mix the two in about 50\50.

The swiftech stuff is added to 2L of water.
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Old 21-December-05, 11:36 AM   #11 (permalink)
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your never supose to use plain old water it carods the copper parts and so forth u need 100% non water!
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Old 21-December-05, 11:40 AM   #12 (permalink)
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your never supose to use plain old water it carods the copper parts and so forth u need 100% non water!

The Swiftech Coolant is an additive that you mix with distilled water to produce a coolant. It has non corrosive properties and prevents agley from growing.

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Swiftech brand watercooling additive. Recommended for all Swiftech liquid cooled products - prohibits oxydation, formation of algea, and improves heat transfer - Mix 1 bottle to 33 Oz. of purified water. Coolant is also UV reactive under UV lighting!

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Old 21-December-05, 01:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 21-December-05, 01:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Whats all this about me being cool?

Didn't realise I was so popular
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Old 21-December-05, 02:38 PM   #15 (permalink)
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HAHA nice man.
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Old 21-December-05, 06:14 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Whats all this about me being cool?

Didn't realise I was so popular

Hehe that took me a min.....man not enough caffeine.
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Old 21-December-05, 06:19 PM   #17 (permalink)
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so sinnce I'm runnin well wwatter in my wc system I should add some.....thing to it?
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Old 21-December-05, 06:26 PM   #18 (permalink)
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so sinnce I'm runnin well wwatter in my wc system I should add some.....thing to it?

Running plain old well/city water in ANY kind of cooling/water system will eventually cause some from of build up, wether it be calcium, alge , or some form of corrosion. Take apart a sink drain plumbing J trap and look at the inside of the pipe wether PVC or Tin/Alunium you wil see some form of corrosion/slime. Also "Hard Water" is more damaging to components. So , yes , you should put in some form of additive as stated in some of the above posts.
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so sinnce I'm runnin well wwatter in my wc system I should add some.....thing to it?



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Old 23-December-05, 03:17 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Yeah I know I asked the question to be stupid.he he
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