Watercooling has for long been reserved for DIYer and hard core overclockers(like some of us). Boy was i suprised this morning when i opened my cataloge from Tigerdirect, to find that they where offering a completly built custom, premodded, water cooled gaming rig entitled the "Double XX".

I dont know how many of you are familier with tigerdirect, but they have long been one of the leading providers of mail-order/internet, sub 1000(even sub 500$) dollor systems. As far as i know this is even the first modded case they have offered for purchase.

My point being with watercooling and modding coming this far, how long will it be untill we see pre-modded watercooled Compaqs and Dells?

Some Links

The Double XX

Its a black Koolance case with yellow and black tape. Each buyer must get a lollypop with each one sold (sucker)

oh and dont forget stickers! you got to have the stickers, i meen what would a case be with out the biohazard stickers?

Heh, heh... imagine the freight charges, and the returns on those babies!

I mean, shipping it with the water in it and everything... bounced around in a UPS truck for a week, dropped, kicked, slid, forked, and then dumped on your doorstep! I wonder how many are gonna survive!!!

The specs on that SOB are impressive though...

240 gigs of HDD... ti-4600, water-cooled, 550 Watt PSU... for under 2,500... I mean, yeah it looks like you got a no-name CD-RW/DVD/Modem/mobo/PSU etc... but that is still a helluva system for that!!!

Not in any way, shape, or form condoning pre-fabs... but compared to alienware, Falcon NW, etc... that is dirt-cheap.

Looks like Tiger is trtying to take a bite out of the competition!

SPECS:

AMD Athlon XP 2200+ Processor*
512MB DDR 333MHz (PC2700) Memory
Two 120GB (240GB Total) ATA/100 Hard Drives
32x12x48 CD-RW
16x DVD ROM
3.5'' 1.44MB Floppy Drive
6-1 All-In-One Digital Media Card Reader/Writer
GeForce4 Ti 4600 AGP Video Card with 128MB and TV out
USR 56K v.92 Fax/Modem
Sound Blaster Audigy PCI Card
Cambridge SoundWorks FSP1600 Speaker System with Subwoofer
Intel Pro 10/100 Network Adapter
Microsoft Keyboard with Internet Quick Keys
Microsoft Optical Scrolling Mouse

Premium One Year part and and labor On-Site Warranty w/ Toll-Free Tech-Support

Oh, and check it out... Rheobus just went mainstream... DAMMIT!

I got burned by Tiger not once, but twice a couple years back and swore to the holy Heineken I would never buy from them again. They could sell an AMD 5000+ for $50 and I wouldn't give them a penny of my cash. Goes to show how important proper customer service and customer relations are to a company.

Your not the only one BA, ive got burned myself by them, their customer service is by far one of the worst i have ever seen, only short of FTI Computer's http://www.fticomputer.com/ If you have never delt with these guys, Dont!!! They are the spawn of satan!.

Damn... I can't remember which company it was... but when I called in, I was put on hold, transferred five times, took a half-hour to get hold of someone... when I finally did, they didn't speak english...

I think I'm repressing it or something

Sound like what i went though with www.fticomputer.com. I purchased a new video card, and i was sent the wrong card( a lower model than what was shown on the net). These guys refused to RMA it for me despite that i had a printout of the web page, which i faxed to them. and The next day of course the product was removed from their web site, i tried 3 more time to get what i had ordered, but never did. I reported them to the BBB, come to find out that they have somewhere in the neiborhood of 40 unresposed BBB claims.

I do not approve using water to cool computers.
I am an electronics expert, and water and electrcity just don't mix.
But, using water to cool the condenser in a jet cooler is okay if the design is such that a leak can't result in a short circuit.

Cool, you are an electronics expert, I am a computer expert. I watercool because it is cost and performance effective. The trick is to not allow the water to touch the electronic components. If you remember that one basic rule you are OK.

Watercooling computers has been done since the 60's. Some of the worlds most powerful supercomputers are watercooled. If you don't like it great, many of us find that is the only way to keep our heavily modified and overclocked rigs nice and cool without being driven crazy by screaming fans. (the cooling type fans, not fans of computer modding).

You do not approve?

Really?

Wanna know what I dissapprove of?

Give ya 3 guesses.......

Stoopid dumba$$ newb making useless posts, when they obviously have no freakin idea what they are talking about!

Electronics expert my a$$!

We have at least six guys here who have been water cooled for months without incident. Electronics and water coexist in many environments (ever here of a boat? ), as BA said, it just has to be done right!

BAM!

Putwig fades back, turn around jumper, *SWISH!* ITS GOOOOOOOOD!

im water cooling my next rig, w00t w00t!

then again, they once said *I* didnt coexist well with electronics, im dangerous just sittin in this chair!

**Slowly extends finger toward cpu fan**

water and electricity don't mix?where's my dictionary???let's see.....h...hydro....hydroelectric.now i'm confused.

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NEWS FLASH !

Water and electricitic found to be incompatable elements.

Reuters: 29 Sep. 2002
Today, the Department of Energy has released a statement affirming that water and electricity do not mix. Further statements indicate that the Hover Damn will be shutdown until such time as the water source for the dam can be replaced with hydroflouroether, (a non-conductive fluid produced by 3M Corporation). Consiquently the market price of 3M has gone right through the Freakin' Roof. Economy analysts link this single scientific finding to a complete economic turn-around for our nation which will provide the needed revenues for the war on Iraq and eventual World domination as all Countries will soon be required to replace the water sources with HFE. This remarkable scientific find has been credited to Mr. Star882.

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Dit - Dit - Da - Dit - DOH !

Star882, j/k, really, I couldn't resist. Please don't take it too hard, but I don't think you would give a hoot-n-Hell if someone you new nothing of, said that they "didn't approve" of actions that you had been doing yourself for over half a year.

But don't worry, if you don't send in pics of your rig with a H2O setup in it, we won't hold it against you.

I saw somebody post here recently "this must be that famous PimpRig tough love."

I love this site.

Quote: Originally posted by star882 I do not approve using water to cool computers. I am an electronics expert, and water and electrcity just don't mix. But, using water to cool the condenser in a jet cooler is okay if the design is such that a leak can't result in a short circuit.

Hmmmm, I wonder what would happen if the Nuclear plants and thier nuclear physicists around the world shared your "knowledge of Electronics" maybe they wouldnt use Water around all that electricity and have to find something else to use.
I am sure if you put a paper out they would love to lau...I mean read it.
I am an electronics expert also, I run a watercooled system and if you knew all that much you would know that it's not the water, its what is in the water that causes the problems. Whata noOb!

Quote: Originally posted by star882 I do not approve using water to cool computers. I am an electronics expert, and water and electrcity just don't mix. But, using water to cool the condenser in a jet cooler is okay if the design is such that a leak can't result in a short circuit.

Oh boy! Someone better give this news flash to Semore Cray, He had better stop watercooling those durned supercomputers!!!!

Quote: Originally posted by scapegoat Oh boy! Someone better give this news flash to Semore Cray, He had better stop watercooling those durned supercomputers!!!!

Hell, yea! You know unreliable those Crays are! We wouldn't want to make it worse with all that "water" around them!

Hey that's right, aren't Nuclear plants water-cooled as well? To cool the control rods anyway. Ahh the beauties of fusion... (I think)

But you know, that does pose that interesting question that was given in my Electronics class I took in my freshman year of High School. Is water the perfect conductor? Or the perfect insulator? Tap water and the like contain minerals (among the other chemicals) which would cause the water to be conductive. While _pure_ water (distilled water I believe would be what you'd buy at the store) on the other hand tends to act as an insulator as there is nothing but H2O.

Yes that's right, another lesson learned...