Hey guys, I wanted to post this in the forums and get some ideas from you all.

A small self containg water cooling rig that has been designed and targeted at beginer/entry level water cooling and possible quiet system users.

Here is the
System setup and what I would like is for you guys to check this out and tell me what you think is good and bad from the info available.

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ok, i'm no hardware guru and i know **** about watercooling, but i'll talke a few stabs at it:
[list=1][*]"ours is a pure-water solution".. not the best idea with electronics[*]"The water tubes that connect the cold-plate to the "box" are just long enough to reach the CPU once the CCS is installed. " .. leaving no room to play with for larger cases? or does each kit come custom made to your case? (damned expensive i bet)[*]"make sure all your connections to the motherboard are in place before mounting the CCS to the enclosure".. meaning you have to remove the whole watercooling system just to get to the mobo?!?[*]"The unit will arrive pre-filled with coolant " HUH?!?! that seem odd to anyone else or is that how they usually come? like i said, i know little about watercooling.. that just seems damned strange[*]"uses existing 12 volt power from the enclosure power supply for pump operation" don't they take a lot of power? granted, the average user is going to be an OCer and have an uber-PSU anyway, but that seems like it'll be ushing it for a good bit of people.[/list=1]

First of all, what the hell is a cold plate? Are they just running water across the top of a copper shim? If so, it could sure use some lapping. Second, that mother is going to get HOT! There is no way to cool the water down. The radiator is inside? Please, you will start at 30C, water will be heated to 40C, then you send 40C water which will be heated to 50C, etc...

The size of that thing would make installation possible in very few cases. I got a big case, but the width of that tupperware contraption probably exceeds the room I have near my CPU.

Self contained? So how do you keep buildup from occuring? I would like to know what kind of coolant they put in there.

And man, is their test rig running hot. 120F on the CPU when the ambient temp is 91F? That bitch is running 31F above ambient. It proved the SLK-800 works though, brought the temps back down to 105F.

Where the hell did you find this CPU killer?

i wouldnt like the colored tubes, too gimicky

i would like to mount it either externalll or on the floor of the case near the front, perhaps using exterior case air for intake, (air from inside the case cant be that cool to begin with, if the ambient case temp is 90 anyway)

maybe a window to see the inards working

perhaps a vertical mounting option up against the rear of the case where exhaust fans normally go...(thus avoiding wiring conflicts)

it is a good idea, but is there a ton of performance in it?

See, that's it's gimmick, you can't move it. It's an all in one piece designed to ride the CPU. Bet that bad boy could put a little bit of weight on the socket with that water tank full. Probably want a jack underneath of it.

Quote: Originally posted by bigakita The radiator is inside? Please, you will start at 30C, water will be heated to 40C, then you send 40C water which will be heated to 50C, etc...

i think thye mentioned that thye had a fan on it, intake from the rear of the case, but maybe i just filled i that blank in my immagination too.. :p

Quote: I would like to know what kind of coolant they put in there.

they said they used a "pure water slution" :p sounds like a great idea

Quote: And man, is their test rig running hot. 120F on the CPU when the ambient temp is 91F? That bitch is running 31F above ambient. It proved the SLK-800 works though, brought the temps back down to 105F.

man, i've gotten so used to seeing case temps in °C, i've forgotten what they are in °F

Ok, I let you guys chew on it awhile so know I can express my thoughts as they came to mind while reading this article.



Keeping in mind their target customers, this appears to be a miss. The overall concept is sound. It is simple too install, (if it will fit), and was not intended to be a performance king.

But here is where they get into trouble;

1st, there is a fan at each end but no unobstructed path for the airflow.

2nd, it has a reservoir for an enclosed system, (why ?). All this does is slow down how long it takes the system to reach it's maximum operating temperature. You can't fill it or anything else so what was the point ? All it really does is help restrict the airflow and add cost to the unit.

3rd, performance, this unit adds two 80mm fans increasing the noise of your cooling without any appreciable cooling benefit, just use a HSF and be happier and hold onto some money.

Now, how could it be better?

1st, dump the useless reservoir and the intake fan.

2nd, move the pump underneath the exhasut fan and radiator, and provide a small support so it doesn't stress the mounting push-rivets.

3rd, increase the size of the radiator some so it can deal with a greater thermal load.

4th, if it is self contained and not supposed to be refilled, etc, use a cooling fluid like HFE (hydroflouroether). A small system like this will only need about 3 oz of the stuff which is cheaper then all the gear you will be dropping and make the whole unit perform better and still will be cheaper and easier to produce.

Last, when will some smart businessman who want's to make a killing in the water cooling market offer me a damn job that will pay enough for me to stop working with software and make him rich ?

i think the water cooling for dummies kit is just as good as a good heat sink. that kit would be good if you extened the hoses and had the exchanger unit outside of the pc or in a different spot than the intened rear case fan. its fugly and should be clear lexan. with blue LEDs inside. then it would be pimp. if it was like that id get one for my cpu, video card, chipset, have a custon setup to cool my ram and my hard drives. but of course it will be the fugly black box. i suppose it could be taken out of the box and put into a custom case. with 120 mm fans. with blue LEDs.

this kit is perfect to cool my palm with or my cell sweet deal now i just need a good portable 12v power solution

this could work for those who just want their rigs to say h2o cooled not for those who want cold

When it comes to water cooling, I'd say it's kinda pointless to create a system where air cooling can perform just as well if not better (the only benefit being the noise that water-cooling _doesn't_ produce...but that's what stealth fans are for). An entry-level, newbie sort of water-cooling system might be a nice idea, but if it's not meant to perform then whats the point?