im a big fan of danger den www.dangerden.com

i run it and get great performance, get a tdx with a maze4 chipset and a 6800 ultra block if u have that card or a maze4 if u dont, with a dual 120mm rad (or heatercore if u have the space)

Anybody have good experience with koolance?

Koolance are ok. Not the best though. You can prolly get a really good dangerden kit for a similar price. I think you should go with dangerden.

Take a look at the new Koolance Kit/Case based on the Chenming 602 case.

~Bob

This was the first one that caught my attention http://www.xoxide.com/koolance-pc3-7...se-silver.html
Similar to Bob's, but from what I've read throughout the forums, dangerden seems to be the most recommended.

Better yet, read a review on it. Seriously, if you're looking for the best performance, Koolance is not very competitive. If you're looking for safe and easy, Koolance is a good bet.

When you factor in price, performance and total package, Danger Den is hard to beat. Asetek also makes a great performing kit and so does Swiftech. But you don't have near the customizing options that DangerDen has. A hand picked custom kit with a open wallet will always outperform any preconfigured kit.

Hydrocool, Alphacool, Radical, Innovatek, PolarFlo, Aqua computer and Little River all have blocks that perform close to and in some cases better than the above. Some are easier to get than others and some are unduly expensive.

if u want an introduction to water cooling thermaltakes big water is a VERY good intro its taught me alot and allows me to overclock my athlon 64 3200 to 2.5 ghz 250fsb. So it does decent and it keepts it in the high 30s idling and mid 40s load

My vote-Koolance

my vote - DangerDen

I have Innovatek, DangerDen, and Swiftech gear. A mix of 3/8" and 1/2" so that I can run two complete systems and still have parts left over.

All around best goes to DangerDen in 3/8" and 1/2" whichever you prefer.

Innovatek is the most expensive, is 3/8" only, and the performance does not warant the increased cost, at best, they are on par with DangerDen for performance.

Swiftech is good solid gear, but DangerDen is just a little bit better.

On the blocks from DangerDen, looks mean alot, but I prefer all metal construction. You want the top performance in classic watercooling, go DangerDen with Silver blocks. But confirm this with AntiM I believe.

Danger Den

The best kit would be one that you put together yourself. That way you get your picks of the best stuff or whatever suits your needs.

Quote: Originally Posted by tinker77 The best kit would be one that you put together yourself. That way you get your picks of the best stuff or whatever suits your needs.

Technically, yes, but only as long as you are using quality components... I believe that was the point of his post, which wc gear makers' pre-/custom-configured kits most wc Pimps would recommend...

I'll cast my vote for DD. The customization options offered, such as copper or silver waterblocks, lucite or brass block tops, injector nozzles you can change to control the flow in your loop, notwithstanding their Made-In-the-USA quality and top notch customer service, make DD the top choice in my book.

zeero: If you would post the specs on the hardware you plan to use the kit with, (case, mobo, cpu, gpu) we could probably help you narrow down the list of possibles, if you'd like.

Danger Den or Swiftech. You should really avoid Koolance. Consider this Danger Den = Ferrari / Swiftech = Porsche / Koolance = Camero. The Camero is a good car, but it's no match.

honestly, my first watercooling kit was a Titan Watercooling Kit TWC-A04

now i am running a RBX block with a DD D4 pump 1/2 tubing.

i got better temps with the titan kit then i did with the RBX D4 combo, even tho the titan was only 1/4 tubing. now, i previously had a Hydor L40 pump that provided better temps than all above.

the titan kit i bought off ebay for only $119. it comes with a VGA block, CPU block, ext radiator + fan, and a housing unit that has the resivor, pump and dual rads inside it. witht he temp monitor, i was getting low low 30s under load with this kit.with my D4 pump and only a CPU block i am getting low 30s idle and nearly 40C loaded. with my Hydor L40 pump, i never went past 34C idle or loaded, only problem witht he Hydor L40 pump is it gets hot, and im sure some of the heat gets into the water.

i have been seriously considering dropping this D4 pump as it is a weak pump for 1/2 tubing and the RBX block. when my 6600Gt card gets here on Monday, and i buy a DD block for it, that is when i will prolly go back to the Hydor or pick up another pump. the only benefit i see off this D4 pump is the fact it is 12 volt, but it is weak as hell. i think right now the total feet of tubing i am using is about 2 1/2 feet.

anyways, some kits are great, but i would definitly build your own. and dangerden is the place to buy your stuff. thier resivors kinda sucks tho. so i would prolly mix and match things between DD and FrozenCpu.

AMD 64 2800+ OCed 2500mhz
DFI LP UT 250G
DD D4 pump
RBX block 1/2 inch

These days, That DD T fitting that you install in the top of the case is so slick I wouldn't even buy a res, just a T and that fitting.

Quote: Originally Posted by TCG_Modder honestly, my first watercooling kit was a Titan Watercooling Kit TWC-A04 now i am running a RBX block with a DD D4 pump 1/2 tubing. i got better temps with the titan kit then i did with the RBX D4 combo, even tho the titan was only 1/4 tubing. now, i previously had a Hydor L40 pump that provided better temps than all above. the titan kit i bought off ebay for only $119. it comes with a VGA block, CPU block, ext radiator + fan, and a housing unit that has the resivor, pump and dual rads inside it. witht he temp monitor, i was getting low low 30s under load with this kit.with my D4 pump and only a CPU block i am getting low 30s idle and nearly 40C loaded. with my Hydor L40 pump, i never went past 34C idle or loaded, only problem witht he Hydor L40 pump is it gets hot, and im sure some of the heat gets into the water. i have been seriously considering dropping this D4 pump as it is a weak pump for 1/2 tubing and the RBX block. when my 6600Gt card gets here on Monday, and i buy a DD block for it, that is when i will prolly go back to the Hydor or pick up another pump. the only benefit i see off this D4 pump is the fact it is 12 volt, but it is weak as hell. i think right now the total feet of tubing i am using is about 2 1/2 feet. anyways, some kits are great, but i would definitly build your own. and dangerden is the place to buy your stuff. thier resivors kinda sucks tho. so i would prolly mix and match things between DD and FrozenCpu. AMD 64 2800+ OCed 2500mhz DFI LP UT 250G DD D4 pump RBX block 1/2 inch

First off your RBX and D4 pump will blow the titan kit out of the water. Second how are you reading these temps? Also the D4 pump is a much better pump then the L40. It has more head and puts less heat into the loop. The Hydor L40 has 6.5 feet of head while the D4 has 12 feet, Pressure (a.k.a head) is more important than flow, therefore making the D4 a much better pump. I think you need remount your block or adjust something in your cooling loop. Also what Rad are you using in the RBX setup? And what are the ambient temps of both setups?

Quote: Originally Posted by SPECIALBLEND218 First off your RBX and D4 pump will blow the titan kit out of the water. Second how are you reading these temps? Also the D4 pump is a much better pump then the L40. It has more head and puts less heat into the loop. The Hydor L40 has 6.5 feet of head while the D4 has 12 feet, Pressure (a.k.a head) is more important than flow, therefore making the D4 a much better pump. I think you need remount your block or adjust something in your cooling loop. Also what Rad are you using in the RBX setup? And what are the ambient temps of both setups?

I tend to agree, the RBX is a difficult block to mount correctly, especially with three lines coming off it. It took me a couple of trys to get it right in my testing. Just a tiny bit off level and temps will be horrible. That and matching the correct restriction plate to the pump you're using can make a big difference.

The titan got beat by ten degrees by a Thermalright ALX-800 air cooler in one review. And overclockers rates it among the lowest of the water cooling gear. I haven't tested it, but it certainly doesn't look like much of a performer.

I'm not sure how many other people do this but, in my LAN pc I have a RBX block. When I mount it I use one of those copper shims and tighten the springs almost all the way down (2 turns from max about). This way I know it is very hard to have an uneven mount. Also tight turning tubing can pull a block off level. If you have tubing making a sharp turn into/out of the block the pressure of the tubing trying to stay staight can also pull the block from being level. This is why I use a lot of mounting pressure to keep the tubing from pulling my block off level.