Talk about wanted to kill someone....

Took my first plung into water cooling last August when I purchased a Koolance PC2-650 case as well as their water block for the CPU (CPU-300-H06) and the GPU (GPU-180-L06) for two identical systems.

After some research, I decided I would try FluidXP in one of the systems and the stock Koolance liquid in the other.

Around a month or two ago, I noticed that my temps in the FluidXP system were slowly degrading.

Wasn't sure what to make of this, but found myself too busy with the holidays to investigate further; outside of checking for leaks.

Well... finally got around to it and Holy S**T!!! The system with FluidXP has apparently been clogged up with white residue! The crap is floating through all the hoses as well as settled thickly at the bottom of the reservoir. I've attached a photo of the removed GPU block to show you what I mean.

This white residue is even worse in my CPU block and, even after flushing out the system approx. 10 times (once with rubbing alcohol at the suggestion of Koolance), there is no improvement. GOD knows what the inside of the radiator looks like.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to clean this out??

The FluidXP website has a FAQ that states:

· What are the small white flakes in the fluid?

A: The white little flakes are from a chemical in Fluid XP known as 1-Dodeconol. It is part of the formula that reduces evaporation. When heated the white flakes melt into a thin layer on the surface of the reservoir to minimize the air evaporative effect on the fluid.

Yeah.... well.... not in this case!

I would AVOID this garbage so as not to ruin over $300 worth of equipment as seems to be my case.

Regards,

Wazoo

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SOmehow I fell that someone really thought that water cooling was meant to last a lifetime...without regular fluid change overs. That or youve got hard water in your area. Thats my first impression anyway.

Quote: Originally Posted by nev_payne SOmehow I fell that someone really thought that water cooling was meant to last a lifetime...without regular fluid change overs. That or youve got hard water in your area. Thats my first impression anyway.

So you're telling me that not changing the FluidXP in a 5 month period caused this?!? Somehow I greatly doubt that. Further, what would "hard water" have to do with it?? I did not use water in my system at all.

Well....thanks anyway for your, ummm.... input.

Quote: Originally Posted by wazoo So you're telling me that not changing the FluidXP in a 5 month period caused this?!? Somehow I greatly doubt that. Further, what would "hard water" have to do with it?? I did not use water in my system at all. Well....thanks anyway for your, ummm.... input.

Evidently he doesn't know about the properties of FluidXP...
I did a test on the cooling properties, and conductivity of FluidXP, However I didn't have the oportunity to do long term testing...Your input will be noted and I will add this to the results found.
What did the company say about your findings?

Quote: Originally Posted by ZENNZZO Evidently he doesn't know about the properties of FluidXP... I did a test on the cooling properties, and conductivity of FluidXP, However I didn't have the oportunity to do long term testing...Your input will be noted and I will add this to the results found. What did the company say about your findings?

I have left a message for the guys at D-Tek (where I purchased the FluidXP liquid from) but have yet to receive a return call. I'm about to ratchet that up a notch....

I have not been able to locate any contact information on the Fluid XP site itself.

Any ideas on how to contact them?

Thanks a million!

Wazoo

Quote: Originally Posted by wazoo So you're telling me that not changing the FluidXP in a 5 month period caused this?!? Somehow I greatly doubt that. Further, what would "hard water" have to do with it?? I did not use water in my system at all. Well....thanks anyway for your, ummm.... input.

I had always heard you only needed to flush your water cooling setup every 6 months.

Sorry, just a rough guess....didnt mean to get up Poseidons'(Zenns) back

hmm... very intresting

I run fluid xp in all my rigs. I will be moving into a new case in a week or so on my DFI UT250 GB (getting rid of the Mtn Mods case, too freakin big!!!) So I will tear down my cooling loop and see what I have going on in the blocks. I will post my results.

Sorry for your loss.

Quote: Originally Posted by CPU Killer hmm... very intresting I run fluid xp in all my rigs. I will be moving into a new case in a week or so on my DFI UT250 GB (getting rid of the Mtn Mods case, too freakin big!!!) So I will tear down my cooling loop and see what I have going on in the blocks. I will post my results. Sorry for your loss.

Thanks for your thoughts....

I'll be curious if you have the residue as well. As mentioned, this stuff was EVERYWHERE: the hoses, the reservoir, inside the blocks (which at least on the Koolance blocks, you can see inside due to the amber casing).

When I rip out my CPU block, I'll take so photos of that as well.

Wazoo

great to know that DD just released MCT-5 and 40 huh?

I'm kinda glad I decided to play it poor and go with distilled water and Zerex. I am interested in the new DD stuff though, as I'm coming up on that 6 month mark.

I hope your gear isn't ruined.

Sorry to hear this . I think its the koolance that was the problem. Many peopel have complained about corrosion from the aluminum to copper once the gold plate comes off. Tons of problems with those things. I have has my hydrop cool for around a year now and havnt changed anything, just topped it off once or twice.

that sucks man. im using distilled water and water wetter, but from the looks of it water wetter is kinda gay and pink and foamy and smells like ass... i really wanna get rid of it on my next change, i was considering fluid xp but i think im gonna try the new danger den stuff.

question tho is water wetter really that bad (ive heard some ppl here say bad things)? it kinda appears to be coating my res in a foamy residue thing (but only my res, which is weird, my lucite top rbx looks perfectly clean inside, as do all my tubes). does water wetter kill biological crap or is that what is possibly getting all up in my res. whatever it is, i dont like it it looks gross, and i have no idea how im gonna clean it. i might just make a t line eventually and get rid of the res alltogether. post any suggestions please

toss WW it's a serious waste..as for the fluid XP I think you have a chemical reaction of some sort going on there. lots of post about the corrosion in those koolance systems and this is the first koolance system i have seen with FluidXp running thru it.

as for cleaning it out I would try CLR cleaner http://www.jelmar.com/CLRproducts.asp

Quote: Originally Posted by 4rm4g3dd0n question tho is water wetter really that bad (ive heard some ppl here say bad things)?

The best analogy I can think of for water wetter is that its like using Arctic Silver 3 instead of Arctic Silver 5. H3LL5P4WN got it right with a more modern additive for his distilled water: Zerex.

Quote: Originally Posted by FizzledFiend toss WW it's a serious waste..as for the fluid XP I think you have a chemical reaction of some sort going on there. lots of post about the corrosion in those koolance systems and this is the first koolance system i have seen with FluidXp running thru it. as for cleaning it out I would try CLR cleaner http://www.jelmar.com/CLRproducts.asp

Has anyone tried this stuff?

Quote: Originally Posted by YohanSpritz The best analogy I can think of for water wetter is that its like using Arctic Silver 3 instead of Arctic Silver 5. H3LL5P4WN got it right with a more modern additive for his distilled water: Zerex.

w00b! I did something right for once! lol

Should work fine. Personally I use Pine-Sol or Lysol to clean the stuff out. For cleaning the tubes something abrasive will get the job done with just dishwashing soap. I've used a modified baby bottle brush with success or a piece of cloth on the end of a straightened coat hanger, the latter being more tedious obviously.

Water Wetter sucks. I couldn't even use a small amount without foam building in my water lines. I've done the Zerex, and other additives. The next time I put a water rig together I believe I will use straight distilled water with a tablespoon or two of bleach and that's it.

ya i dont like water wetter at all it really is gross. do you think taht just distilled water with a little bleach will really work well? if so thats what i think i will use on my next fluid change

Bleach causes highly accelerated corrosion I believe.