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Old 30-December-04, 12:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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At work we lease out these water units to accounts:
http://www.oasiswatercoolers.com/Pro...untertop01.JPG
(Of course, since I'm the service tech, I might be able to get myself a "leaking" unit for a decent price.. Read:free)
They have an internal tank which basically is designed to dispense *ICE* cold water (literally, it builds up a giant ice cube inside.)
Now, I had a thought today.. could one of these be used to power a below ambient water cooling setup? The only concern I have would be condesation at the water blocks...
Personally I don't think it would be hard.. Mount a pump inside somewhere, run the lines to the comp, and use distilled water rather than the water in...I could probably rig it up to use the built in water filler to be the return...
Anyone have any thoughts? (Other than can I get you one.. The answer would be a no..)
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Old 30-December-04, 12:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I once read about a guy who took apart an old drinking fountain and obtained it for $20 at an auction.
Then he made his own water block and rigged it up.
That night he finished and started it up. Condensation and $2,000 down the drain. AKA Snap, Crackle, and Pop.

If you can control the temperature then I would say go for it. The one I was talking about in that clip was "industrial strength".
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Old 30-December-04, 12:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hmmm, no way to control temp in these..
I was kind of thinking maybe go with the Asetek vapochill route (Isolate and insulate the waterblock and CPU from fricken everything..)
But that would probably be more of a pain in the ass than I'm looking for..
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Old 30-December-04, 12:40 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Danger Dens has this on Condensation. Since I work for the local power company I can get my hands on those dinky silicon tubes.

http://www.octools.com/index.cgi?cal...o2/howto2.html
http://www.octools.com/index.cgi?cal...ion/intro.html
http://www.octools.com/index.cgi?cal...ion/howto.html
http://www.dangerden.com/mall/Pelts/neoprene.asp
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Old 30-December-04, 12:55 AM   #5 (permalink)
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well hte prblem he'll have in addition to the cpu and waterblock condensing is that there will prolly be condensation all over the hoses.

although.... units like those dont dispense water at 300 gph, so if you rigged one to do that, i dont think that the water would get all that cool, hence, a little cooler, but not COLD, either way, i'm very skepitcal on wether or not it would work
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Old 30-December-04, 01:06 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Well, it holds ~1 gallon.. I think once if I were to let the ice build up to what it's suppose to be, then turn the pump on, it would keep it damn cold...
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Old 30-December-04, 01:27 AM   #7 (permalink)
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You can get thick insulation foam made to prevent condensation from most Home Depot's
I know Zennzzo used some on his super chiller...
http://www.thermalfoams.com/construc...insulation.htm
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Old 30-December-04, 01:30 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Id go for it, get out a old p3 rig, try it on something you can afford to loose
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Old 30-December-04, 01:37 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Id go for it, get out a old p3 rig, try it on something you can afford to loose

Hmm
I've got an old P166 rig in the other room o_O
I can't do anything like that to this Athlon rig, it's the family comp..
And I'm certainly not gonna do it to my new A64 setup, at least not until I've tested it a lot...
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Old 30-December-04, 02:15 AM   #10 (permalink)
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honestly i dont think that will be a problem. that cooler is designed to run in a system with no additional energy being put into it. ITs meant to cool down water in a tank thats notgoing to heat up. in your case, you have a cpu heating up the water, probably a whole lot faster than it can cool it down. I honestly think you wont get anny cooling benefit during normal running(after the initial built up coolness has exausted).

cant hurt to try.
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Old 30-December-04, 03:04 AM   #11 (permalink)
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ya if they can keep a vapochill from condensing all over a processor you can find a way to make this work, wrap the tubing as well and you should be fine. i think this would work great if you can find a way to keep it from getting water all over everything, but it shouldnt be that hard
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Old 30-December-04, 03:08 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I wonder if theres some sort of sealant that could be sprayed on electronics so condensation wouldnt be a problem. Mask off heatsinks obviously, but spray it on and it seals up anything from corrosion /shorts well enough that a little condensation wouldnt kill it.
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Old 30-December-04, 04:45 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I wonder if theres some sort of sealant that could be sprayed on electronics so condensation wouldnt be a problem. Mask off heatsinks obviously, but spray it on and it seals up anything from corrosion /shorts well enough that a little condensation wouldnt kill it.

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Sold out, might be able to find it else where though..

http://www.cooltechnica.com/Merchant...ategory_Code=H
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Old 30-December-04, 04:56 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Sold out, might be able to find it else where though..

http://www.cooltechnica.com/Merchant...ategory_Code=H

Looks perfect, you'd just have to be real careful to mask off every slot and socket, or just apply it when everything is asembled, just avoiding the heatsink.
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Old 08-January-05, 01:27 PM   #15 (permalink)
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You could always submerge the entire computer in an inert liquid. You can get a couple gallons of that flouronert stuff for *ONLY* like a 1000 dollars. Or you could use vegetable oil or something. Then you could have a sweet styrofoam box or aquarium case. I would be jealous.
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Old 08-January-05, 01:39 PM   #16 (permalink)
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anarch, mineral oil works
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Old 08-January-05, 02:04 PM   #17 (permalink)
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The problem with flouronert, besides the outrageous price, is itÂ’s only available from 3M and you have to send them documentation stating who you are and why you want it and then, maybe theyÂ’ll sell it you.
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Old 08-January-05, 04:34 PM   #18 (permalink)
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i doubt this would get cold enuf to need a submersive fluid
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Old 09-January-05, 11:32 AM   #19 (permalink)
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it will work, but it will level off after a while the compresor will work constantly which in turn will shoot your powerbill up..DO it try it go for it! this stuff is neat to mess with..and if isn't cold enough get 2 units from work and daisy chain them
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Old 09-January-05, 11:50 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Actually the unit doesn't look large enough to have a compressor. It's probably a TEC that relies on insulation and a layer of ice on the internal container to keep water cold. Add a constant heat source such as a cpu and it would be hard pressed to keep up with the load. And temps would fluctuate wildly.

Most likely it would be a costly waste of time and effort.
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