ok im new to the boards and to water-cooling along with that so please be gentle, but anyway, for Christmas i decided to put together a water cooled system because i thought they looked sweet and i was tired of having my computer sound like a vacuum cleaner while at 61 degrees. I bought the danger den maze..... 4......3.....the newest one they have out and i also got the black ice pro radiator. So im all pumped and i set it up and it goes in perfect no leeks no nothing (thank god) but when i turn it on, it just loads for like 5 seconds and then turns off. So since i have a gigabyte mother board, and an amd, i clocked the processor way down to like 1.39 ghz and it started to load up, so then i went into my bios to check what the temp was on my cpu AND IT WAS AT 78 AND CLIMBING. will someone please tell me why my water cooling system is hotter than what my old pain in the ass fan was. PLEASE.




System specs:
amd 3200+ not over clocked
gig of kinston pc3200
radeon 9800 pro
gigabyte gn700 L
aspire 500 wat power supply
2 seagate 80 gig hard drives
and some other stuff that doesnt matter

holy crap that's high.

Did you apply thermal paste? Is water flowing through your tubing? Let the hydro-pimps come around and they can help out a bit more ...

I woulda recomended the RBX block ... Maze 4 is kinda old ....

Stupid question, but was your pump plugged in and running?

heh heh this is my first water cooled system not my first build. But ya im sure the water is movin and im sure that i put the arctic silver on. oh and the 76 or what ever is nothin i was sittin there and i watched the temp go up to 98. oh ya can you say fun with computers? but thanks for the help.

Is the block secure with enough pressure on the CPU?

BTW, how did you underclock it before you were able to get into the BIOS?

Could be a couple things. My first thought would be you're not getting good contact between block and processor. Pull it off and check the pattern in the grease. It should have a perfect impression of the processor die and be very thin and even. Make sure the tubing is not putting uneven pressure on the block. The block should hang roughly parrallel to the die BEFORE you tighten it down.

Other than Rob's "stupid" question, I don't see any other explanation that would account for such high temps.

Quote: Originally Posted by AntiM Other than Rob's "stupid" question,

Hey, I resemble that remark!

Rob

I agree, it has to be a mounting issue for temps to climb that fast.

that may be it cuase i am using 1/2 inch tubing and its a mayjor pain in the ass becuase it doesnt give any. that and what would you guys sugjest cleaning the heatsink and the processor with so i can reaply the arctic silver. would nail polish remover work?

Yes, but rubbing alchohol is better. Less residue.

Also, nail polish remover can eat the plastic of the proc.

Isopropyl Alcohol 98% would be good to clean the die of the CPU and some Goof Off if you have any would work with it, any solvent really.

Quote: Originally Posted by Spazz491 that may be it cuase i am using 1/2 inch tubing and its a mayjor pain in the ass becuase it doesnt give any.

I don't know how you have your setup is.... set.... up... But try some 45° or 90° elbows so you don't have to try and tweak the tubing itself.

is this C or F. cause you might not have any problems at all and its something else.

(look at me, i sound like rob)

its celsius in the bios right......
plus im using mbm and it keeps saying stuff even difrent from the bios, it says that im idleing at 46-50

I dont know anything about water cooling, but would it matter what order he has stuff in his loop? Res,block,rad,pump?? I dunno, just a thought...:S

it would matter a little, but not enough for ultra high temps

Even if he had everything flowing backwards, the temps still should not be that high. Considering that, along with what the hydro pimps have said all along about "once the system warms up, the order of specific parts of the loop is negligible if anything at all".

As everyone else has said, this is a contact issue between the proc and waterblock. Chances are the tubing is pulling it away, tipping the block, or something that does not allow it good contact. I had this problem with tubing from Home Depot and everything had to be positioned just right so they would go together in a safe fashion.

One of my friends made a custom waterblock, and once his Swiftech MCP300 pump broke he didn't bother buying a new one since the computer runs just fine without water flowing and fans cooling the 'heatsink'. This is on a P4 ~2.6ghz setup.

Make sure that Vcore isn't too high either.

thanks for the ideas. I went and tried to reposition my waterblock and now i have been able to drop my temp to 48 idle, which still isnt very good. ill see if i can get my hands on any right angle connectors some time soon.

You don't need right angle adapters. They will interfere with flow and decrease performance.

You need to cut your hoses the right length so that they do not put any strain on the block. Also, make sure the block is fully tightened down.