Liquid Nitrogen Cooling

Runiteshark · 12-May-04, 09:07 PM

I'm sure we have all seen the mods of liquid nitrogen cooling, but, how would you go about making a setup that would continiously work, and be in a case (possibly large 36'' customed cube case) Of some sort?

What kind of stuff would you need...

Is there a place where you can get kits?

What kind of sealant and anti-precip stuff would you need?

I'm curious to know, and wondering if any of you know..

/Runiteshark - Looking to get even more performance from processors.

DuplexEmotions · 12-May-04, 09:12 PM

I wouldn't mess with liquid N2 as a permanent cooler.... the internal pressure would depend on the external pressure, if you got a particularly hot day your computer would explode.

Solid N2 is where it's at.

lAnonymousl · 12-May-04, 10:18 PM

Dry ice and liquid nitrogen aren't intended for long-term use (at least not for overclocking hobbyists unless you have some SERIOUS money).

If you're serious about cooling go for cascade phase-change cooling.

This is one of the funnier questions I've heard in a while....kit he says.

Lunamods · 12-May-04, 10:21 PM

Its impossible to make a continuous system unless you hava continuous supply of liquid nitrogen as it cannot be sealed in a system or it would burst due to immense pressure. Thats why they store it in Dewars flasks, they are vented to relieve pressure.

Cheshiredemon · 12-May-04, 10:24 PM

well, it is possible to have a closed-loop LN2 system (much like an advanced cryo system). But, you would need something bigger than a case, like, say... a very large room.

lAnonymousl · 12-May-04, 10:30 PM

It would have to stay under -147C at a pressure greater than 33atms just to keep it in its liquid phase or, like Luna said, it would just evaporate.

Lunamods · 12-May-04, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheshiredemon


	well, it is possible to have a closed-loop LN2 system (much like an advanced cryo system). But, you would need something bigger than a case, like, say... a very large room.

Well I dont know if it can be completely closed. There is a LN2 storage facility about 10 miles from me, owned by Boc Gases. They have a HUGE outdoor storage tank, and it has relief valves on the top, you can see the vapor escaping almost constantly. Im sure if it could be totally closed they would close it, as i sure they lose plenty of dough with all the gas boiling off at a constant rate.

carbongraphite · 12-May-04, 11:22 PM

its just air and a big compressor but electricity isnt cheap. either way in theroy you would end up with a giant thing of pipes and motors outside your house in the form of a chiller or a really expensive sterling cooler. or have the Air Products truck come every week. so if you want the sub zero chill go get a vapochill unit

Runiteshark · 13-May-04, 08:05 AM

I already have Vapochill cooling! The point of this is, is how can I get something even better then Vapo-Chill..

And yes, I was thinking about having a pressurized system, but I wasn't sure how it would work, or how much it would cost.. X-D

lAnonymousl · 13-May-04, 08:49 AM

Here's another, more detailed explanation pertaining to the liquid nitrogen dilemma:

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...ad.php?t=84807

If you want better cooling (long-term) than what's commercially available, you'll have to look into how to make a cascade system by yourself, like I said earlier. Here are some articles to get you started:

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=618&s=1
http://www.akiba-pc.com/article.php?29.0
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...threadid=14231
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...threadid=19517
http://www.phase-change.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=18
http://overclockers.com/tips1032/

Also, check the phase-change/extreme cooling forums of those respective sites for a wealth of knowledge.

If done right you could be in the -100's. Hope that helps.

P.S>If you do go down that road, make sure you don't kill yourself.

HawkEye_Pierce · 13-May-04, 03:35 PM

HOLY ****ING ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!

5.1GHz OMFG!

Chrome_Rust · 13-May-04, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkEye_Pierce


	HOLY **ING **!!!!!!!!!!!!! 5.1GHz OMFG!

all for the use of searching for pr0n!

ZENNZZO · 13-May-04, 03:57 PM

Have you tried to use the r404a mod in your Vapo?

Runiteshark · 14-May-04, 08:03 AM

No, could you link me to a place with the information on it?

btw, I'll check out the cascade..

lAnonymousl · 14-May-04, 01:37 PM

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=716&s=1
http://forum.vapochill.com/showthrea...&threadid=3283

Also search the forums if you need to troubleshoot.

12-May-04, 09:07 PM		#1 (permalink)
Runiteshark Apex Techie Wannabe	Liquid Nitrogen Cooling I'm sure we have all seen the mods of liquid nitrogen cooling, but, how would you go about making a setup that would continiously work, and be in a case (possibly large 36'' customed cube case) Of some sort? What kind of stuff would you need... Is there a place where you can get kits? What kind of sealant and anti-precip stuff would you need? I'm curious to know, and wondering if any of you know.. /Runiteshark - Looking to get even more performance from processors.

13-May-04, 08:49 AM		#10 (permalink)
lAnonymousl The Who? Hoe	Here's another, more detailed explanation pertaining to the liquid nitrogen dilemma: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...ad.php?t=84807 If you want better cooling (long-term) than what's commercially available, you'll have to look into how to make a cascade system by yourself, like I said earlier. Here are some articles to get you started: http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=618&s=1 http://www.akiba-pc.com/article.php?29.0 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...threadid=14231 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...threadid=19517 http://www.phase-change.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=18 http://overclockers.com/tips1032/ Also, check the phase-change/extreme cooling forums of those respective sites for a wealth of knowledge. If done right you could be in the -100's. Hope that helps. P.S>If you do go down that road, make sure you don't kill yourself. Last edited by lAnonymousl; 13-May-04 at 09:01 AM..

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12-May-04, 09:12 PM		#2 (permalink)
DuplexEmotions Bi P-Hoe-lar	I wouldn't mess with liquid N2 as a permanent cooler.... the internal pressure would depend on the external pressure, if you got a particularly hot day your computer would explode. Solid N2 is where it's at.

12-May-04, 10:18 PM		#3 (permalink)
lAnonymousl The Who? Hoe	Dry ice and liquid nitrogen aren't intended for long-term use (at least not for overclocking hobbyists unless you have some SERIOUS money). If you're serious about cooling go for cascade phase-change cooling. This is one of the funnier questions I've heard in a while....kit he says.

12-May-04, 10:21 PM		#4 (permalink)
Lunamods Apex Tech Maniac Supreme	Its impossible to make a continuous system unless you hava continuous supply of liquid nitrogen as it cannot be sealed in a system or it would burst due to immense pressure. Thats why they store it in Dewars flasks, they are vented to relieve pressure.

12-May-04, 10:24 PM		#5 (permalink)
Cheshiredemon Smiling-Hoe	well, it is possible to have a closed-loop LN2 system (much like an advanced cryo system). But, you would need something bigger than a case, like, say... a very large room.

12-May-04, 10:30 PM		#6 (permalink)
lAnonymousl The Who? Hoe	It would have to stay under -147C at a pressure greater than 33atms just to keep it in its liquid phase or, like Luna said, it would just evaporate.

12-May-04, 11:22 PM		#8 (permalink)
carbongraphite Pow - Hoe playa	its just air and a big compressor but electricity isnt cheap. either way in theroy you would end up with a giant thing of pipes and motors outside your house in the form of a chiller or a really expensive sterling cooler. or have the Air Products truck come every week. so if you want the sub zero chill go get a vapochill unit

13-May-04, 08:05 AM		#9 (permalink)
Runiteshark Apex Techie Wannabe	I already have Vapochill cooling! The point of this is, is how can I get something even better then Vapo-Chill.. And yes, I was thinking about having a pressurized system, but I wasn't sure how it would work, or how much it would cost.. X-D

13-May-04, 03:35 PM		#11 (permalink)
HawkEye_Pierce Ham Op-Hoe-rator	HOLY **ING **!!!!!!!!!!!!! 5.1GHz OMFG!

13-May-04, 03:57 PM		#13 (permalink)
ZENNZZO Direct Cool Hoe	Have you tried to use the r404a mod in your Vapo?

14-May-04, 08:03 AM		#14 (permalink)
Runiteshark Apex Techie Wannabe	No, could you link me to a place with the information on it? btw, I'll check out the cascade..

14-May-04, 01:37 PM		#15 (permalink)
lAnonymousl The Who? Hoe	http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=716&s=1 http://forum.vapochill.com/showthrea...&threadid=3283 Also search the forums if you need to troubleshoot.