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Old 25-April-04, 10:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Zalman cooler, Yay or Nay !?!?!?!

Here it iz

Wondering if it worth it , cept I think the blocks are plastic.
Never had a WC kit before and am looking into one.
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Old 25-April-04, 10:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sounds like a shat design to me. Cant imagine the liquid would cool down quick enough without a fan.
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Old 25-April-04, 10:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Nay. Stay with what works.
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Old 25-April-04, 10:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I dunno, I mean that thing is pretty big. I mean if your not gonna be going any where with it.
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Old 25-April-04, 10:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Took what is a good idea (semi-passive cooling) and crapped on it.
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Old 25-April-04, 10:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Go for it if you have the money to burn. Otherwise, go more conventional. I don't think the blocks are plastic....maybe that res is.
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Old 25-April-04, 11:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i say naa and build yourself a good WC system the 1st time if you wanna go water then you will be happen instead of regret it and upgrade in 2 months
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Old 25-April-04, 11:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I havent used warecooling myself yet, but I believe if I was going to I would at least want something that fit into my case...lol

I would stick to something more coventional that integrates better with the case/system myself.
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Old 25-April-04, 11:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Go for it if you have the money to burn. Otherwise, go more conventional. I don't think the blocks are plastic....maybe that res is.

The res/rad is anodized extruded finned aluminum and the block is a 1/4" lined copper block with anodized aluminum top.

It also has a 300 liter pump...
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Old 26-April-04, 01:10 PM   #10 (permalink)
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The Zalman block scores very well in reviews. But the only reviews I've seen of the big passive rad were not very impressive. Nordic hardware tested with one of the coolest running AMD chips available, the 1700 and came up with 8-9 degrees over what a RBX system scored. Couple that with a hot AMD chip and a healthy overclock and things could get ugly.
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Old 26-April-04, 01:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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K00, thx fellas it looked sweet anyways, well if that poll I made wins with the water then I guess Ill be hittin everyone up on the coldest, coolest, most freezing of my cpu, icicle and snowconemaking mofo of a WC setup.
THX AGAIN !!!!
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Old 26-April-04, 02:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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K00, thx fellas it looked sweet anyways, well if that poll I made wins with the water then I guess Ill be hittin everyone up on the coldest, coolest, most freezing of my cpu, icicle and snowconemaking mofo of a WC setup.
THX AGAIN !!!!

Talk to Zen, he'll get ya setup straight. Might even ask him to do a custom resivor for ya, its pretty pimp
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Old 26-April-04, 10:01 PM   #13 (permalink)
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It is the perfect kit for someone who wants a perfectly quiet system and is not OCing or running a naturally hot chip, except...... That you can do better with the Innovatek MAXI rad, and mid-sized pump, (do to the smaller diameter tubing and fittings, and a solid block like the new Swiftech MCW6000 or a 3/8" Maze3.

Either of those blocks can be had for $40, several pumps will fit the bill for give or take, around $60.
The Ehiem 1046, 1048, L20, MCP600, or D4 can all work fine. There are certainly others.

So, $190 for the RAd
and another $100 for the pump and block, and all you might want is a reservoir and you still have $30 or $40 to play with.

Of course you can do with solid 1/2" systems even cheaper that will outperform it, and can be almost just as quiet with the right fans, and no chance of it not being tough enough
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Old 26-April-04, 11:03 PM   #14 (permalink)
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If you want quiet I'd think just get a multi fan rad and slap on quiet fans; a 120.3 thermochill with 6x Vantec Stealths should do pretty good...

oh, and check Zalmans GPU block, pretty weird..

http://www.xoxide.com/zmgwb1.html
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Old 26-April-04, 11:26 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Nay on the Zalman then , thx fellas !!!!
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Old 26-April-04, 11:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I see four main divisions in water cooling.

High Performance These are the direct-die coolers, TEC cooling, and that High-flow Impingment group.

Mid range These are the 10mm 3/8" crowd like Innovatec, Swiftech, some of the DD products. They will cool a standard rig with good results, will support overclocking but will not see anyone into the record books.

Low end This is where I lump in all the lower performing kits, the Thermaltake, Evercool, entry level crowd. Most are not worth the money.

Passive Enginered Cooling For passive water cooling, the leader here is Innovatek, followed by Zalman which is pretty much on top in all other passive arenas. Although it is not really water cooling, the Zalman TNN500A case fits this same grouping of hardware. The guy that buys this gear is not out to OC his gear, he just wants a quiet solution and these products fit the bill. This grouping blurs the lines between water cooling and heat-pipe solutions. It is their purpose more then their format that places them into this catagory.

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