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Old 25-April-04, 07:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was surfing ebay, and found this on there.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...476998718&rd=1

Found their website:

http://www.integrity-pc.com/fluidxp.cfm
Seems interesting. Anyone heard of this?
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Old 25-April-04, 07:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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From the looks of it, this has answered the million dollar question and could be Duck's 'top secret' liquid he's using. Definitely looks to be some good stuff.
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Old 25-April-04, 07:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hard to say. I havn't found any hard facts on it, or what kind of temps you can expect from it in a cooling system. Not frying your system when it leaks is a definite plus though.
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Old 25-April-04, 08:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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From the looks of it, this has answered the million dollar question and could be Duck's 'top secret' liquid he's using. Definitely looks to be some good stuff.

nope no hazmat card needed to order...but
you'll need 50+bux for a quart, 75+bux for a half gallon and a
Benjamin+ for a gallon...a tad more than distilled H20 and additive!
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Old 25-April-04, 08:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Oh yeah, forgot about that...although this seems like it'd do the job quite well.

Anyone have the cash to spend on half a gallon?
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Old 25-April-04, 09:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Oh yeah, forgot about that...although this seems like it'd do the job quite well.

Anyone have the cash to spend on half a gallon?

Haven't seen and couldn't find any numbers on the stuff as far as coolant properties...still in all, it ain't H20...the best.
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Old 25-April-04, 10:44 PM   #7 (permalink)
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In the auction it states it has heat dissipation qualities "similar" to water...in fact only 2 degrees different. You wouldn't need alot of it if it was in a closed loop with no or small reservoir.
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Old 25-April-04, 10:56 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Conductivity (lectrical)76 microSiemens/cm ( in all accounts "0")


Conductivity (Thermal) 0.00122 cal/sec-centimeter-C ( 84.5% of h2o)


Viscosity @ 20 C 4.37 centiStokes Viscosity @ 40 C 2.50 centiStokes Freeze Point -12.5 C (9.5 F)


Boilinig point 99.44 C (211 F with no flash or fire point)


So in essence the % of effectiveness to water is actually 92.8%

http://www.radiantsolution.net/ecomm...products_id=28
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Old 25-April-04, 10:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Not bad for a little piece of mind. 75 bucks to protect hundreds in equipment isn't too bad a deal.
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Old 26-April-04, 07:17 AM   #10 (permalink)
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nahh ill stick to water cooling untill a gun is to my head. I prefer somthing that can be made at home - like one guys mixture on here was 40% antfreeze, 10% jim brown, 40%water and somthing else. Chemicals that i have to buy in are just not on.
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Old 26-April-04, 08:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
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No diss ment to your find Slider,
but, After seeing the numbers and the part of the 92% effectiveness of water...I bet that's cause it is water 92%, a PH'd, de-ionized, water prolly.
The "Formula can be tailored for various viscosities and systems." part kinda gives it away. I didn't see any viscosity adjuster for sale there along with that.
Distilled water and a 10% dilution of waterwetter/zerex will not conduct electricity either, I've had a hose come off block I forgot to clamp and coolant went everywhere while booted up. I shut it down and let it dry. That board is still running fine today.
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Old 26-April-04, 10:31 AM   #12 (permalink)
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That's some good info there Zennbro. I'm venturing into watercooling thanks to a fantastic birthday gift from our buddy CPU Killer.
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Old 08-June-04, 01:28 AM   #13 (permalink)
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If this is the same stuff I have seen. Which from looking at it and reading the specs on it it is. This stuff is great. I have seen what this stuff can do. Put my finger in it and it was cold on my finger while in a container at room temp. It evaperates quickly so needs to be in a sealed system.

They are not kidding when they say this is used for supercomputers. I have heard...wasnt there but reliable sources say and have seen that computers can run while submerged in this fluid. And with my expierence with it i believe it. And it may not be the same as 100% water...but who is running 100% water?

Just food for thought, but it may be worth the 50 bucks or so to swap out the water and try it. But if you spring a leak...thats 50 buck in thin air before you know it.

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Old 08-June-04, 01:52 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Found some reviews of this stuff.


http://www.overclockers.com/articles1028/

http://www.cluboc.net/reviews/super_...d_xp/index.htm

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Old 08-June-04, 01:58 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Anyone else's troll alarm going off?

CuttyShark - sorry, but you seem a little to energetic about this product, so I have to ask - do you work for the company?
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Old 08-June-04, 10:25 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Nope i dont work for the company. It was late at night and I was actually trying to find info on Non-Conductive Fluid. Did a search and this board came up...wasnt trolling so much as just stubbled on in.

I usually dont go to boards but my expierence with what i am assuming is the stuff i have seen before was impressive. And it being late when i posted was alittle toooo punchy and excited to actually find anything on it. (Been looking for it off and on for a few yrs)

Why was i searching for Non-Conductive fluid? Building a new system and i am considering liquid cooled...but would like to avoid water.

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Old 08-June-04, 02:57 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Well read DuckWarriors review of this stuff and not bad. Although this wasnt the same liquid that I have seen. From the sounds of it the NC Fluid i saw was the HFE-7100 he mentions having the fast evaperation time. That sounds more like it.

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Old 08-June-04, 05:13 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I don't know if I would use FluidXP for submersive cooling. You'll notice in the OCers review that it lists a conductivity of 76 uS/cm. If you take a look here:

http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediaw...uuuiudeqUUUUs-

You'll see that the stuff Duck used (HFE-7100) only has a conductivity of 3.0395 x 10^-4, meaning FluidXP's is 2,5004,112% higher. The numbers look big but actually aren't. The real question is, is FluidXP too conductive for long-time submersion? I'll let someone else find out.

Edit: I just checked their website and found this:
http://fluidxp.com/modules.php?op=mo...es&id_cat=1#12
Interesting. I guess the next question is does FluidXP maintain the same conductivity over it's entire shelf-life or will it ionize, albeit slowly?
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Old 09-June-04, 10:45 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Anon, Duck said in his review that he wasnt using the 3M fluid. Due to the evaporation time. Relatively quickly.

Me personally wouldnt want to submerge my computer into anything. Just for the simple reason of I hate fishtanks and dont need a computer tank.

Although it does make me wonder what the 3M fluid would do in a good water cooling unit inplace of the water. From what I understand of water cooling...aside from the the theroy not much. It would seem in theroy this would work...instread of direct cooling...IE..submerged...you run it through a water cooling system..but I would think it would still work well.

But since Im not sure i thought i would put it out there...would this 3M fluid work just as good as water in a water cooling system?
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Old 10-June-04, 12:28 PM   #20 (permalink)
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so would this mean that you don't have to clean the solution out every few months like water?
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