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Old 22-April-04, 12:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Now how gay would it be for me to be asking that? And worse you actually came in here. I am talking about your fan shroud. I am going to make one tomorrow and I want to know how many inchs I should make the space between the fan and the rad. 1, 1.5, 2 and what diff does it make?
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Old 22-April-04, 02:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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At least an inch. The farther away, the less of a dead spot there is.

Mine is 9 inches personally.
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Old 22-April-04, 03:19 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It depends most upon the size of the center hub. If the center hub is 2 inches across, it will generally perform great when placed 2 inches away. If the hub is an inch and a half, place it 1.5 inches away from the rad.
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Old 22-April-04, 11:21 AM   #4 (permalink)
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It's not just the hub that is impeding air flow, but the radiator itself. A shroud of about 3 inches will double the air flow of a typical fan through a radiator. I can't seem to find my performance curve charts, I'll look more later. But, the further a fan is lifted from the resistance the greater the performance.

Basically anything over 3/4" will dramatically improve air flow through a radiator. Anything much over 3" won't gain you much. Design between those to your size constaints and you should be okay.

Also the type of fan you use can make a difference. Fans such as Pabst with a planar air flow (the air flow is perpendicular to the fan body or straight out) have proven to be less efficent than Axial fans which deliver air flow in a funnel pattern.

And 38 mm fans with the same cfm rating as a 25 mm fan generally has a higher pressure rating. So when there is more resistance they move more air than the 25's.
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Old 22-April-04, 02:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The fans actually are papst fans but they are going to be moved to the case sides and I will be replacing them with sunon fans as I like their sound the best and the ability to turn them up for better cooling is a bonus. So then from the sound of it more is better but more than 3 is unnecceary?
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Old 22-April-04, 09:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The fans actually are papst fans but they are going to be moved to the case sides and I will be replacing them with sunon fans as I like their sound the best and the ability to turn them up for better cooling is a bonus. So then from the sound of it more is better but more than 3 is unnecceary?

See for yourself, the added return on anything over 3" is very slight in the typical fan.
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Old 22-April-04, 11:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Okay now I am confused...damn charts...no really okay so then should I make my shroud 2.5 or 3 inchs?
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Old 22-April-04, 11:57 PM   #8 (permalink)
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lol...ignore the pressure scale and concentrate on the bottom figures. 2 and a half would be more than sufficient. Most premade shrouds aren't even that deep.
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Old 23-April-04, 12:54 AM   #9 (permalink)
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So then how much of a loss would I have if I opted for 2 instead of 2.5? And will having the system in a push/pull affect this space? Is there a difference between having the setup as a push only as opposed to a pull only?
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