The Insanity!

DuplexEmotions · 12-April-04, 03:45 PM

Direct die liquid nitrogen cooling. Discuss.

KayinStorm · 12-April-04, 03:55 PM

Would shatter the core. Submerge the system in dry-ice cooled HFE, and then try it with a block.

DuplexEmotions · 12-April-04, 03:56 PM

I get an idea, and it gets shot down in a single post. Such is life.

Not that I'd be able to try such a thing. All I got lying around worth trying it on is a 2ghz celeron of DOOM AND TERROR

nev_payne · 12-April-04, 04:14 PM

THG did a liquid nitro overclock on a pentium 4 and hit 5ghz stabily. The concerning factor though was the ice cystals as sharp as razors which had grown on the cappacitors and MOSFET. They didnt direct cool, they used a half inch think bit of copper with a 24" tal copper cylinder. It was the only possible way to do it. Liquid n2 doesnt stay liquid for long either. THG did it for about 2 hours - by which time all but 200ml of n2 had evaporated because of the room temperature.

If your thinking about something along the lines of water cooling with a pump think again. you would need an ICI plant to recool the nitrogen. (ICI plants tending to be 50'000 square foot of solid cooling equipment)

TYCOON · 12-April-04, 04:14 PM

uhhh yeahh....DIE THREAD DIE!!

DuplexEmotions · 12-April-04, 04:20 PM

I know you wouldn't be able to use liq n2 as a permanent cooling solution, nev. In fact, the reason you can safely put liq n2 in your mouth is because it turns gas quickly enough that it makes a layer of gas that keeps the liquid off your tongue. I was just wondering if anything like Kayin said would happen, where the cold is enough that putting it to work could make the chip shatter.

4rm4g3dd0n · 12-April-04, 08:30 PM

thg's ghz oc was NOT stable, they even said they were barley able to get benchmarks to run

DuplexEmotions · 12-April-04, 08:32 PM

got another insane idea..... how well does heat dissipate in a vacuum?

TYCOON · 12-April-04, 08:37 PM

Vacuums and pcs dont mix, you relise how much static electricity is in those hoses...more then enough. Trust me

TheOutcast · 12-April-04, 08:39 PM

it doesnt... it gets worse. Thermoses are 2 cans, one big, one small, and inbetween is a vacuum... thats why it insulates so well.. heat / cold doesn't really work through it, so basically its like throwing a blanket on..

DuplexEmotions · 12-April-04, 08:41 PM

I was thinking sealing the components in a vacuum, that way there'd be no air & no ambient moisture, so you could cool severely without worrying about condensation. All this is hypothetical, I'm just trying to get ye olde creative juices flowing around here.

jcarkeys · 12-April-04, 08:44 PM

You wouldn't be able to get a perfect vacuum, nor maintain it long enough. TheOutcast is right, vacuums mess everything up

biohazardpc · 12-April-04, 09:00 PM

You couild design a liquid nitrogen sealed cooling system... Would have to insulate the heack out of the tubes and use a tubing material that will not shatter at the extreme cold...

DuckWarrior · 12-April-04, 09:31 PM

Blondes! Discuss!

Iateronmly · 12-April-04, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuckWarrior


	Blondes! Discuss!

What's there to discuss? The classic statement "Gentlemen perfer blondes" says it all.....

BigAkita · 12-April-04, 10:53 PM

Your best bet is to attempt phase change cooling.

Blondes have more fun.

NoSlak · 12-April-04, 11:33 PM

Well you can sleep with a blonde or you can sleep with a brunette.
But you'll never get any sleep with a redhead..

gorked · 12-April-04, 11:34 PM

Blondes? Going for the black all the way.

me_john85 · 12-April-04, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoSlak


	But you'll never get any sleep with a redhead..

FIRECROTCH!

lAnonymousl · 13-April-04, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuplexEmotions


	I was thinking sealing the components in a vacuum, that way there'd be no air & no ambient moisture, so you could cool severely without worrying about condensation. All this is hypothetical, I'm just trying to get ye olde creative juices flowing around here.

12-April-04, 03:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
DuplexEmotions Bi P-Hoe-lar Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,563	The Insanity! Direct die liquid nitrogen cooling. Discuss. __________________ I wrote a haiku but it is not very good so I won't share it. "We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about." -Albert Einstein

12-April-04, 03:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
DuplexEmotions Bi P-Hoe-lar Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,563	I get an idea, and it gets shot down in a single post. Such is life. Not that I'd be able to try such a thing. All I got lying around worth trying it on is a 2ghz celeron of DOOM AND TERROR __________________ I wrote a haiku but it is not very good so I won't share it. "We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about." -Albert Einstein

12-April-04, 04:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
nev_payne Apex Tech God Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Somerset, England UK........ News Threads: 8,143 Posts: 4,085	THG did a liquid nitro overclock on a pentium 4 and hit 5ghz stabily. The concerning factor though was the ice cystals as sharp as razors which had grown on the cappacitors and MOSFET. They didnt direct cool, they used a half inch think bit of copper with a 24" tal copper cylinder. It was the only possible way to do it. Liquid n2 doesnt stay liquid for long either. THG did it for about 2 hours - by which time all but 200ml of n2 had evaporated because of the room temperature. If your thinking about something along the lines of water cooling with a pump think again. you would need an ICI plant to recool the nitrogen. (ICI plants tending to be 50'000 square foot of solid cooling equipment) __________________ You have reached Nev's Voicemail. Please leave a message in the PM. Thank-you.

12-April-04, 04:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
TYCOON Apex Tech God Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: SCHOOLLLSSS Posts: 4,728	uhhh yeahh....DIE THREAD DIE!! __________________ AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 2.7GHz DFI LanParty SLI-D 2GBs PC3200 @ PC3500 // 2.5-3-3-6 EVGA 7950GT 512MB @ Stock Audigy 2 ZS 36Gb Raptor (os) 2x300Gb WD SATA 16MB CACHE (storage) 450Watt OCZ modstream Coolermaster Wavemaster

12-April-04, 04:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
DuplexEmotions Bi P-Hoe-lar Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,563	I know you wouldn't be able to use liq n2 as a permanent cooling solution, nev. In fact, the reason you can safely put liq n2 in your mouth is because it turns gas quickly enough that it makes a layer of gas that keeps the liquid off your tongue. I was just wondering if anything like Kayin said would happen, where the cold is enough that putting it to work could make the chip shatter. __________________ I wrote a haiku but it is not very good so I won't share it. "We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about." -Albert Einstein

12-April-04, 03:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
KayinStorm Apex Tech God Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Alithir... Posts: 3,353	Would shatter the core. Submerge the system in dry-ice cooled HFE, and then try it with a block.

12-April-04, 08:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
4rm4g3dd0n Apex Elite Tech Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Texas A&M University Posts: 1,194	thg's ghz oc was NOT stable, they even said they were barley able to get benchmarks to run __________________

12-April-04, 08:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
DuplexEmotions Bi P-Hoe-lar Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,563	got another insane idea..... how well does heat dissipate in a vacuum? __________________ I wrote a haiku but it is not very good so I won't share it. "We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about." -Albert Einstein

12-April-04, 08:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
TYCOON Apex Tech God Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: SCHOOLLLSSS Posts: 4,728	Vacuums and pcs dont mix, you relise how much static electricity is in those hoses...more then enough. Trust me __________________ AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 2.7GHz DFI LanParty SLI-D 2GBs PC3200 @ PC3500 // 2.5-3-3-6 EVGA 7950GT 512MB @ Stock Audigy 2 ZS 36Gb Raptor (os) 2x300Gb WD SATA 16MB CACHE (storage) 450Watt OCZ modstream Coolermaster Wavemaster

12-April-04, 08:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
TheOutcast Minnes-hoe-tan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Moorhead, Minnes-Hoe-ta Posts: 2,803	it doesnt... it gets worse. Thermoses are 2 cans, one big, one small, and inbetween is a vacuum... thats why it insulates so well.. heat / cold doesn't really work through it, so basically its like throwing a blanket on.. __________________

12-April-04, 08:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
DuplexEmotions Bi P-Hoe-lar Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,563	I was thinking sealing the components in a vacuum, that way there'd be no air & no ambient moisture, so you could cool severely without worrying about condensation. All this is hypothetical, I'm just trying to get ye olde creative juices flowing around here. __________________ I wrote a haiku but it is not very good so I won't share it. "We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about." -Albert Einstein

12-April-04, 08:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
jcarkeys Key Hoe Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Defiance, MO (real city) Posts: 2,333	You wouldn't be able to get a perfect vacuum, nor maintain it long enough. TheOutcast is right, vacuums mess everything up

12-April-04, 09:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
biohazardpc H.A.L.O.-Hoe Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,617	You couild design a liquid nitrogen sealed cooling system... Would have to insulate the heack out of the tubes and use a tubing material that will not shatter at the extreme cold... __________________ When all else fails beat it with a hammer. One shot One kill, why waste ammo.

12-April-04, 09:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
DuckWarrior Retired Admin In Charge of Death and Destruction to All those Who Oppose My World known as PimpRig Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Behind the Lens & in front of Models...it's home Posts: 4,157	Blondes! Discuss! __________________

12-April-04, 10:53 PM	#16 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 14,315	Your best bet is to attempt phase change cooling. Blondes have more fun. __________________ "I'll stop being an A-Hole if you will stop being an Idiot."

12-April-04, 11:33 PM	#17 (permalink)
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12-April-04, 11:34 PM	#18 (permalink)
gorked Apex Tech Demi-God Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 1,797	Blondes? Going for the black all the way. __________________ ______________________________ Counter-Strike Pimps Idle and Perform #SbK on IRC!