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Old 07-October-07, 12:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thermaltake CL-W0005-01 BigWater SE Liquid Cooling System

Is something like that even worth it If im not trying to like majorly overcl****...?

OR should I just use my gemeni 2.

Is there any cheap watercooling that would work decently>?
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Old 07-October-07, 06:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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[Personal Opinion]:

The intro kits like Big Water are decent, but if you're looking to really push the OCs (eventually you will), I would look at a piece-by-piece setup...

Ready-made kits or even all-in-one setups with small-bore tubing can adequately cool your parts for minor OC and day-to-day cooling, but it seems that sometimes people take the lazy approach and just get it all in one shot, or they are doing so for the "Hey, MY PC is water-cooled... What's special about YOURS" aspect...

It's been a bit since I have run a WC setup, but I went for quality parts, like Danger Den blocks, Tygon tubing, Eheim pumps, and Black Ice radiators.

More spendy in the long run, but if you think about what you spend on WC parts as an investment in protecting your CPU/GPU/etc from the dangers of your need for speed, then it kind of becomes academic...

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Old 07-October-07, 11:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I share the same personal opinion as GrandpaNoob.
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Old 08-October-07, 07:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I share the same personal opinion as GrandpaNoob.

Everyone does. Don't bother with kits. Complete waste of time. Good air cooling will beat most water kits.
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Old 08-October-07, 08:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I've used a big water before, and it was quiet and ran just fine... but I didn't OC or anything. Like everyone else is saying, ready-to-go kits aren't very effective, and usually high-performance air will beat them out. Cheapie water kits are good for quieting down a system, but that's about it. Save up for a custom kit, done right, if you plan to OC at all.
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Old 11-October-07, 12:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I have the Gemeni 2 with 2x 120mm Fans This thing is so cold all the time I cant even comprihend how there would be a colder water cooling unless maybe it was hooked up to liek and external refridgerator.
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Old 11-October-07, 02:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well how about 4 fans?
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Old 11-October-07, 03:47 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Can you mount 4 fans on one of those Geminis? Like is there space underneath the fins so you could have a very effective push/pull setup?
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Old 11-October-07, 05:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I have the Gemeni 2 with 2x 120mm Fans This thing is so cold all the time I cant even comprihend how there would be a colder water cooling unless maybe it was hooked up to liek and external refridgerator.

What temps you getting (using CoreTemp)? It's a Q6600 under that aint it?
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Old 12-October-07, 12:16 AM   #10 (permalink)
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It is a q6600 but I havnt looked at any temps yet.But thats because my hardrive doesnt come until tomorrow ( 10k Raptor )

Ill get back tomorrow night though.
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Old 15-October-07, 10:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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NEVER buy Thermaltake watercooling parts . . .they suck. I had two blocks crack and leak all over my GPUs. If you want low quality then go for it. You want a decent system go:
1. Danger Den
2. EK
3. Swiftech
If you want a decent kit go Koolance but use ALL Koolance stuff do not mix with other brands.
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Old 22-December-07, 10:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
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In general, watercooling kits, with the exception of the Swiftech kits and a few other, are only as good as high end air, at twice the price.

Expect the performance of that kit to be less to a Thermalright Ultra 120
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