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Old 14-September-07, 01:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Advice Needed. One Loop or Two?

Well, honestly to me either option sounds feasible, I'm just looking for a diversified response.

I will be starting my new job soon, so all the BIG plans I have been dreaming of for my PC for the past couple of years might finally come together. However, this thing is gonna be one massive chillbox, and I need an opinion on whether to have one huge water loop, or two separate ones.

I already have a Vapochill LS sitting next to me, so we can eliminate the quad core from the equation. But if I were to put everything into one massive loop, it would look something like this from start to finish.
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Swiftech MCP-350 (modded to push 190GPH) > BlackIce Xtreme 3x radiator > GeForce 9800 series card > southbridge (socket AM2+ board) > BlackIce Xtreme 2x radiator > second Swiftech MCP-350 (modded to push 190 GPH) > 2x Innovatek fass-o-matic via 5 1/4 bay (yeah i know reservoirs do little to water temps but cut me some slack, im aiming for some blingage ) > (If ageia takes off like they appear to in the near future and develop a linux port of their drivers, a physics processor will go here) > northbridge > 2x MOSFET blocks > 2x 5 1/4 acrylic reservoir > back to beginning of loop.

This is just a rough estimate of how I picture the stuff and not the final composition yet as I have just jiffy rigged all the heating factors together. But what would you guys do? Would you go with that one massive loop, two loops, or throw in a third pump? The benefit for me of going 1 loop vs 2 is that I have already setup my case for a fixed number of LCD indicators. I would only have one water temp and water level to monitor vs 2 thus giving the option for monitoring a larger number of other things.
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Old 14-September-07, 01:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Swiftech MCP-350 (modded to push 190GPH) > BlackIce Xtreme 3x radiator > GeForce 9800 series card > southbridge (socket AM2+ board) > BlackIce Xtreme 2x radiator > second Swiftech MCP-350 (modded to push 190 GPH) > 2x Innovatek fass-o-matic via 5 1/4 bay (yeah i know reservoirs do little to water temps but cut me some slack, im aiming for some blingage ) > (If ageia takes off like they appear to in the near future and develop a linux port of their drivers, a physics processor will go here) > northbridge > 2x MOSFET blocks > 2x 5 1/4 acrylic reservoir > back to beginning of loop.

Okay, I'm going to suggest three things.

Either get a decent loop for you CPU, and a decent loop for your GPU, then add all that other stuff to a third loop.......

or

get rid of the MOSFET, SB and physics cooling, and just run two loops, a CPU loop and a GPU loop.......

or

run them all in one loop, with one or the other resiviors, and put the two pumps in paralell and get some really really powerful fans.


Now when is the 9800 coming out, and when it does what type of watercooling will be available? Alot more..

Wait it out dude, otherwise, I'm sure the other W/C pimps will be around.
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Old 14-September-07, 02:00 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Either get a decent loop for you CPU, and a decent loop for your GPU, then add all that other stuff to a third loop.......

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I already have a Vapochill LS sitting next to me, so we can eliminate the quad core from the equation.






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Now when is the 9800 coming out, and when it does what type of watercooling will be available? Alot more..

Rumor has it that the 9800 series will be launched in November, but you know the usual routine of online rumors floating around. I'm looking at a best case scenario sort of approach.

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and put the two pumps in paralell

Hmmm. Interesting. I never thought of it like that before. Now just to clarify that we are on the same page you mean to split the loop with a Y adapter, hook a hose to each pump, then merge the loop back together with a second Y adapter? This sounds like a good idea also, but I can't help but wonder if placing the pumps at different points thoughout the loop in equal stress spots would be a bit more effective.

Thanks for the advice, now if only we could get some more responses to this.
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Old 14-September-07, 10:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Rumor has it that the 9800 series will be launched in November, but you know the usual routine of online rumors floating around. I'm looking at a best case scenario sort of approach.



Hmmm. Interesting. I never thought of it like that before. Now just to clarify that we are on the same page you mean to split the loop with a Y adapter, hook a hose to each pump, then merge the loop back together with a second Y adapter? This sounds like a good idea also, but I can't help but wonder if placing the pumps at different points thoughout the loop in equal stress spots would be a bit more effective.

Thanks for the advice, now if only we could get some more responses to this.

SystemCooling.com

That review (although old pumps) should me the difference in series or parallel. I like parallel better.
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Old 14-September-07, 09:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Excellent source site. Those are some nice pumps, however I can't afford to have the 1/4 inlets introducing any resistance into the loop. That parallel method looks sexy, but the issue is for my scenario I think it might be better to do series. Parallel offers higher flow rate, however the problem is since this is going to be a long loop with 2 big radiators and a good 4 or 5 blocks, i think it might benefit better from the increased discharge head.

The Swiftech MCP-350 modded with 1/2 barbs and the L style inlet/outlet fashion yields about 190 GPH per pump, while still maintaining the same low Dcb level.
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