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Old 12-August-07, 09:47 AM   1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1 (permalink)
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After all your advice, people, after 3 days of building, testing, case modding, mounting, filling, more testing, and all the fun that comes with building yer rig, here is my finished PC!

Well, I started building like 6 months ago, actually more like 9, got the 8800GTX maybe 4 months ago, then upgraded to 4GB RAM last month, then water-cooling the last few days! I think I am finally finished. Well... gonna have to go quad-core soon and throw in another 8800GTX, but is anyone ever really finished? I guess this is more to show the water-cooling than the whole rig, and with that, here we go...



^ Lian-Li PC-60 case with modded side panel, modded 15mm hole w/ gromet for fan wiring on rad. Mountings bolts encased in blue plastic tubing to raise up rad as I didn't want to cut out a section in the top of the case.

Water-cooling:

D-Tek Fuzion CPU Block
8ft Clearflex Tubing 1/2"
Thermochill PA120.2 w/ 4 x 120mm Akasa fans
5 1/4 Drive Bay Resevoir
DTC D5 Vario 12v Pump
Deionized Water & D-Tek SuperCool water treatment
D-Tek UV Visible Blue Dye (waste of f***ing time)

The rest of the spec is in my sig.

Hopefully in a couple months I'm gonna cool the 8800GTX on a seperate loop, and add the NB/SB to the CPU loop.

Successful/stable CPU (E6600) OCs so far:

3.85ghz // 1.6375v // 38c idle - 54c full-load
3.6ghz // 1.5v // 36c idle - 51c full-load
3.4ghz // 1.4v // 33c idle - 45c full-load
3.2ghz // 1.35v // 26c idle - 41c full-load

(stock) 2.4ghz // 1.3250v // 24c idle // 34c full-load
(stock - undervolted) 2.4ghz // 1.15v // 23c idle // 31c full-load

At the time of testing, case temp was 27c, ambient temp in room was 22c, 16c outside. Window open etc...

The lower it gets the less it changes as it's pretty much at ambient temps or just a few degrees over.



Thanks to everyone who helped advise me on the loop set-up, what gear to get, and to everyone here who taught me everything I needed to know over the past couple years that allowed me to build my dream rig in the first place <3

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Old 12-August-07, 09:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Looking good, I'm liking the o/cs

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Old 12-August-07, 10:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Looking good Fiddles. Everytime I see a watercooled rig it makes me really jealous...I want to go WC but I'm too much of a n00b and can't be bothered with the hassle. It would really help with overclocking my Core 2 Quad though. I think I'll do it later this year.
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Old 12-August-07, 10:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Looking good Fiddles. Everytime I see a watercooled rig it makes me really jealous...I want to go WC but I'm too much of a n00b and can't be bothered with the hassle. It would really help with overclocking my Core 2 Quad though. I think I'll do it later this year.

It's not hard man. The hassle? Other than draining the loop and other such maintenance, the initial set-up is easy enough. All in all from opening the boxes, to cut tubing, plumbing in everything, filling it up, leak testing, then fitting it all took me about 3 hours. Case modding took about an hour. I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was.

GO FOR IT!

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Old 12-August-07, 08:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm sorry to kill the vibe, but what is this

4-3-2-8-2T

EDIT: noticed you have 4GB, 2T is all you gonna get with them there.

Now the 4 - 3 - 2 -8 woah

the first number should always be the lowest, the second and third normally need to match that, then the fourth to be as low as possible.

Depending on the volts you can get with your board, which I'm almost sure it can do it. 2.2 is about the safest voltage for daily use (refrenced Cpt.Planet on this) but those are fast sticks of ram.

At least try 4-4-4-12 800MHz, @ 2.2V, you should be able to do that, and it'll probaly give you a bit better performance than the mixed timings.

Hope this helps, let me know what you do.

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I'm sorry to kill the vibe, but what is this

4-3-2-8-2T

EDIT: noticed you have 4GB, 2T is all you gonna get with them there.

Now the 4 - 3 - 2 -8 woah

the first number should always be the lowest, the second and third normally need to match that, then the fourth to be as low as possible.

Depending on the volts you can get with your board, which I'm almost sure it can do it. 2.2 is about the safest voltage for daily use (refrenced Cpt.Planet on this) but those are fast sticks of ram.

At least try 4-4-4-12 800MHz, @ 2.2V, you should be able to do that, and it'll probaly give you a bit better performance than the mixed timings.

Hope this helps, let me know what you do.

Ah well there ya go.. I learned something new I guess. I always thought just the lower the numbers, the better, in order from first to fourth being the priority list.

Hence my old 2-3-2-5 G.Skill sticks, 4-3-3-8 sticks I had once (if I remember rightly). Why then do they sell sticks like that? Should not they just be like... all equal through lowering some of them numbers to meet the others?

Also, yes they easily do 4-4-4-8 800mhz 1.9v. I just tightened up the timings as low as I could go on each with the necessary voltage adjustments (1.95 it took to get memtest stable).

EDIT:

In fact I just asked two people and they confirmed that 4-3-2-8 would be faster than 4-4-4-8. Also, I tried it and did not notice a performance gain.

And the sticks will not do above 2T period. I run the FSB @ 1600mhz so need the RAM @ 800mhz for 1:1. The sticks will do their 1066mhz 5-5-5-15 but I really don't find much of a performance gain which I think is due to them running out of sync with the FSB.

When I get a 1333mhz CPU I should be able to stretch them closer to 1066 and keep a 1:1

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Old 12-August-07, 09:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Looking good!
I'm jealous....
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Old 13-August-07, 09:04 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Ah well there ya go.. I learned something new I guess. I always thought just the lower the numbers, the better, in order from first to fourth being the priority list.

Hence my old 2-3-2-5 G.Skill sticks, 4-3-3-8 sticks I had once (if I remember rightly). Why then do they sell sticks like that? Should not they just be like... all equal through lowering some of them numbers to meet the others?

Also, yes they easily do 4-4-4-8 800mhz 1.9v. I just tightened up the timings as low as I could go on each with the necessary voltage adjustments (1.95 it took to get memtest stable).

EDIT:

In fact I just asked two people and they confirmed that 4-3-2-8 would be faster than 4-4-4-8. Also, I tried it and did not notice a performance gain.

And the sticks will not do above 2T period. I run the FSB @ 1600mhz so need the RAM @ 800mhz for 1:1. The sticks will do their 1066mhz 5-5-5-15 but I really don't find much of a performance gain which I think is due to them running out of sync with the FSB.

When I get a 1333mhz CPU I should be able to stretch them closer to 1066 and keep a 1:1

Yes you are right, with 2T any tightening of timings is good. With 1T you play with another ball game, so to speak, and even timings just shoot better. The DDR timings you had before, was more selling points, such as "low timings" 3-4-3-8 PC4000, it was rebranded memory that seemed better and had decent timings.

Not tring to push ya around, after talking to planet for a while, i relized its just as good as 4-4-4-12 but with 2T you can't do much but run as low as they go.
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