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Old 23-January-07, 02:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question To Vista or not to Vista, that is the query.

So... now that Vista is about to be released to the rabidly awaiting public, I put the question to you fair readers.

Are you going to do it and why (or why not)?

Let's not degenerate into a Linux/OS X vs. M$ debate please. I have no reason to change my mind as to the flavor of OS I use, and there is precious little that you could do to convince me otherwise.

Now that I've finally gotten off my rump and upgraded to a new machine (running an Opty 165), I know my XP Pro 32-bit software is not utilizing the full capabilities of the machine.

But then again, it is running with no driver, hardware, or software compatibility issues.

And knowing that no M$ launch goes completely according to plan, wouldn't the prudent path be to wait and upgrade (if at all) 6 months or so down the line when the kinks are worked out and the price has dropped a bit (hopefully)?

And if so, which version of Vista are you likely to choose?
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Old 23-January-07, 02:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that is the query.

I wouldn't upgrade to Vista until there's a DX10 game worth playing... and that's the only reason I would. That being said, most of the games I play are DX9 or earlier (heck, I think my favorite one is still a DX7? game... it still has Glide support, FFS.)

And there's sposedly some folks at XS working on an alternative to vista for DX10 too... who knows.

If I did have to choose, I'd probably pick Ulti... function is good. :X
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Old 23-January-07, 02:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that is the query.

I am with you Im_gumby, I will most likely to buy it after at least 6 or 7 months after it's release to make sure they have most of the bugs all work out with more drivers support and other compatible hardware and other software programs, if i do buy it i will most likely will buy the Ultimate or Premium Edition but i am leaning more towards the Ultimate Edition..
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Old 23-January-07, 02:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that is the query.

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You do the math.

Ultimate 6-12 months down the road.
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Default Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that is the query.

Considering MS is already taking applications to beta test Vista SP1 because there are big gaping holes in Vista. Waiting at least 6 months would indeed probably be prudent. Cost is another huge factor.

And not knowing how many hardware changes I'm likely to get away with before I have to re-register or *gag* re-purchase worries me. Seems the last point is still rather vague.
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Default Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that is the query.

The main reason im not using Vista is all this DRM bullsh1t thats being introduced.

With the TCPA gaining support, its not going to be long before Microshaft and other huge technology companies will have you doing exactly what they want, and not doing exactly what they dont want you to do.

Id rather stick with XP and pro-long that outcome for as long as possible.
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Old 23-January-07, 03:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that is the query.

I waited about 6 months for XP so 6 months for Vista will be no problem, hopefully they'll have a student ultimate upgrade at that time, no way I'm putting down all that mula for an OS.
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Old 23-January-07, 03:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Default Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that is the query.

I think I will be upgrading to vista on my desktop or do a dual boot of xp and vista on my lappy soon.
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Default Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that is the query.

My university store sells XP OEM discs for 15 bucks so if they keep that up for Vista I'll be grabbing very close to when it comes out.

We'll all be using it eventually anyway
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Default Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that is the query.

Nope. A Couple Reasons:

1) I dont have the Money
2) Probably because it will be WinXP All over again (you know, Virus, spyware etc)
3) Does M$ really need more money?
4) Do I really need Vista? Will It give me more performance? Probably not. The only good think about Vista is DX10

I tell ya, If I ever win the lotto Im buying rights to DX and giving them to Mr. Torvold.
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I tell ya, If I ever win the lotto I'm buying rights to DX and giving them to Mr. Torvold.

Good thought, but you're assuming that you winning the lotto would give you enough money to make an offer that M$ or Bill would even take seriously... and I don't think that any lotto jackpot has ever come close.

Which brings me to the 20th century equivalent of "Which wins: the unstoppable force or the immovable object?"

Is there enough money to bribe the richest man on the planet?
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Old 23-January-07, 04:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Default Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that is the query.

The university i go to sells XP for 10.... so im guessing Vista will be close so cost isnt an issue. I might get it and try it out on my desktop, and if I like it move it to my laptop. We will see I'm not sure I'll like it.
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Default Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that is the query.

I checked out the upcoming features of Windows Vista, if I went with any it would be Premium. However, I'm not sure the features I really could use, are worth the upgrade cost...

-I like the improvements to the Network Center, having a visual network depiction would be pretty cool;

-It's about friggin' TIME somebody finally did something about being able to scale down webpages so they could actually print properly, without 1/3 of the right side being cut off;

-An integrated Windows Calendar would be a nice addition, for those people who don't want to evaluate crappy trialware or install the massive bloatware filled with unnecessary features (for the home user at least) that is MS Outlook;

-The window flipping would be useful; I always hated ALT + TABbing before, especially when you had 5 instances of the same program running, and no way of determining which one you needed to switch to or end task on.

Not much else really concerns me. M$ says performance is improved (of course with higher system requirements, so is it really improved?)...but can you compare apples with oranges? Is performance on Windows Vista with 1 GB of RAM any better than Win 9x on 64 MB of RAM? Methinks it's probably the same. Win XP is a complete dog with 256M of RAM, but 256 gets you by on Win 2K, and is more than plenty for Win 9x. So if they're calling for minimum 512M for Vista, you probably better have at least 1 gig in your system if you actually want to multitask.

I know one thing: my PARENTS would really love some of the features, it would make their lives easier for sure.
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Default Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that is the query.

Wait your bookstore sells XP with key for 10?
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Default Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that is the query.

I've ran it on 3 of my PC's so far, 2 laptops and 1 desktop. It's performance isn't bad as long as you have the ram. My big gripe with Vista (Besides Windows generally bores me, I like to learn when I use the computer) is how damn buggy it is. On one of my desktops it wouldn't shut down at all, unless you did a hard reset. I encountered numerous blue screens on all 3 installs I did of it. I'd have to say it's reminding me quite of Windows ME in the bugs department.

Also networking was about as quick as a sloth...

Windows XP is still quite a bit better than Vista at the moment for the little bit that it really offers that is "new".
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Default Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that is the query.

i like some of the eye candy that vista brings. with that being said...

last time i played with vista, it seemed more like a resource hog then a viable operating system.

i would say, wait for sp1, more games with directx support.


if you are impatient. get windows xp, and get the desktop studio... and tweak yer pc to look and feel like vista.


me, im sticking with xp... ill play with vista when sp1 comes out... (ms blaster ring a bell?... when it was rampant, it would only take 6 minutes for a xp with no hotfixes, to be infected.)
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Why not start a campaign which tries to get Ati, Nvidia and the game manufacturers to start to use OpenGL instead of DX? ID software are mainly (only?) OpenGL, so why couldn't other companies do it?
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