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Old 06-March-05, 07:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hey my dads work got a copy of visual c++ .net and i would really like to hop in and learn it, but witht he very limmited knowledge of c i know and decent amount of vb, and violent amounts of qb, i dont know where to start. Are there any online tutorials, or REALLY good books i could buy to jump right in and start programming?
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Old 06-March-05, 08:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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There's a big (object-oriented) jump from C to C++. Here's an oline tutorial I bookmarked ages ago-

http://www.zib.de/Visual/people/muel.../tutorial.html


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Old 06-March-05, 08:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The book i use and i like very much is called Programming and Problem Solving with C++.

The book is very informative and is what i would suggest to a begining programmer. Although i find it easier to learn C++ if you take a class.

I first began learning C++ when i was a junior in high school. Im a sophmore in college now, a computer science major, and i learned so much since my years in high school. I think i learned more from having a teacher than from trying to learn it on my own.
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Old 06-March-05, 11:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Not sure if Webmonkey has any C++ stuff, but they are a valuable developer resource.

http://webmonkey.wired.com/webmonkey/
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Old 20-July-05, 06:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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hey my dads work got a copy of visual c++ .net and i would really like to hop in and learn it, but witht he very limmited knowledge of c i know and decent amount of vb, and violent amounts of qb, i dont know where to start. Are there any online tutorials, or REALLY good books i could buy to jump right in and start programming?

Excellent stuff!! I'm glad to see you want to give C a go. I would recommend you try learn as much as you can about C++ though, since object-oriented programming is preferrable over procedural, and C is procedural. I'm not going to go into great detail since that's already been done for me at the following website... http://cplus.about.com/od/beginnerct...1/l/blctut.htm

I used about.com on a day-to-day basis when in college since it's such a brilliant programming resource, it's got concise and clear explanations and i recommend this site without reservation if you want to learn anything about programming. I highly recommend you read the history between C and C++, it will answer a lot of questions you may have. Books... i would recommend, 'An Introduction to Programming with C++ Third Edition' by Diane Zak - Thomson Course Technology. I used that excellent and very comprehendable book in my very first C++ programming class back in college. Once you've got a firm grasp on the basics of C++, i would recommend you go for the following book which goes into more detail.... 'Object-Oriented Programming Using C++ Second Edition' by Joyce Farrell - Thomas Course Technology.

Good Hunting!

PS: Let me know if you require any technical help with C++/VB/SQL/Java/JavaScript/Unix/Oracle
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Old 20-July-05, 07:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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While it is a good idea to learn C++ to have a background in object oriented programming, I recommend you learn Java instead. C++ is basically simpler and less complicated than Java, so if you know Java, learning C++ would be a lot easier. Also, Java is emerging as "the" programming language. Most future programs will be based on Java, not C++.
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Old 20-July-05, 07:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I was taught C++ in college, here are some links to some good books -

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...876859-5326451

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...876859-5326451

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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...876859-5326451

Enjoy learning C++.
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Old 20-July-05, 07:29 PM   #8 (permalink)
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While it is a good idea to learn C++ to have a background in object oriented programming, I recommend you learn Java instead. C++ is basically simpler and less complicated than Java, so if you know Java, learning C++ would be a lot easier. Also, Java is emerging as "the" programming language. Most future programs will be based on Java, not C++.

That's an extremely iffy statement. While both Java and C++ are great leaps into object orriented programing it is hard to say which one has a greater following considering at this point most open source projects use some sort of C++ or .Net equivalent.

You want my opinion? go onto sourceforge.net and check out the top rated most updated programs, see what they are being programmed in and follow suit.

if there is anything that .net has taught us it is that object orriented programming still kicks ass and in the future we maybe able to use whatever we want to code to accomplish the same ends.

Just as a counterpoint, most of THE most popular java based programs have fallen away and their support has litterally deteriorated with the advent of easier to use C based languages. While at the same time the biggest gripes about C based languages has been their cost to develop and the cost of software to run alongside it. Those gripes are now non-issues with .net.
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Old 21-July-05, 08:15 AM   #9 (permalink)
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While it is a good idea to learn C++ to have a background in object oriented programming, I recommend you learn Java instead. C++ is basically simpler and less complicated than Java, so if you know Java, learning C++ would be a lot easier. Also, Java is emerging as "the" programming language. Most future programs will be based on Java, not C++.

I have to agree with Wellmont about your post making an 'iffy' statement. I can't see how learning Java first would make things easier on a novice. C++ and Java are both powerful object-oriented programming languages and i believe a novice would experience more of a challenge learning Java first compared to learning C++ first. In actual fact, when in college the very first class i took was C++ instead of Java. My Java class came much later in my course only after completing two C++ classes. Now the reason for that became quite apparant to me when i actually started Java for the first time. Although i had completed two classes of C++ i still found it a challenge to use Java in the beginning, i would have probably struggled like crazy if i hadn't gone through those first two C++ classes. I believe it's imperative a novice start off learning the basics of programming with an easy to learn programming language first before jumping into the deep end. I found C++ easier to understand than Java in the beginning, so i recommend learning C++ first rather than Java.

I believe once you've learnt one object-oriented programming language, the others come easier.
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Old 21-July-05, 08:34 AM   #10 (permalink)
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There should be some good material for you to bite your teeth on found here:
http://www.hotscripts.com/C_and_C++/index.html
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Old 21-July-05, 08:50 AM   #11 (permalink)
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For tech books, BookPool.com usually has better prices than just about anyone else.

Course, Borders has a printable 30% off coupon for this weekend, too.
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