What Size Sleeve?

Error404 · 31-December-05, 09:49 PM

I'm wondering what size Sleeving should I get? I will be sleeving Fan tail cables, CCFL cables, and S-Video Cable from a LCD.. Should I get the 1/4" or the 1/8"?

GrandpaNoob72 · 31-December-05, 09:56 PM

I'd go for the 1/4, simply for ease of install.

The 1/8 might end up a tighter fit along the cables, but I've had a very hard time getting it to expand enough to get it over the fan connector wires... My $.02 for ya...

Error404 · 31-December-05, 09:58 PM

Thanks Pops. Appreciate your .02.. I'll just go with the 1/4.. I was gonna go with the 1/8.. but sounds like 1/4 will be easier.

GrandpaNoob72 · 31-December-05, 10:23 PM

If you want to see how it looks, take a peek over at my Untitled worklog, got some pics of the sleeving I did last night. Power/reset button cables, fan cables, etc. I used 1/4 on it, and IMO, doesn't look all that bad for an "amateur" job... And you're welcome

Error404 · 31-December-05, 11:19 PM

That does look good, and you got the same idea as me lol.. FCPU could sleeve them, but hell, for 10 bucks for each fan and CCFL.. No thanks

The Dragon Reborn · 01-January-06, 06:47 AM

I use 3mm (I believe that is 1/4") for the fan cables... at first I had some problems with the connectors..
then I just inserted a ball point pen into the sleeving. Pushed that along while inserting the wire...
Works great!

TDR

GrandpaNoob72 · 01-January-06, 10:26 AM

A couple of little tricks I tried and it worked nicely for fan connectors:

If you're doing more than one fan with the 3-pin connector, do one fan completely (pull pins, sleeve, heatshrink, re-connect) at a time, that way you have a connector nearby with the cables in the correct spot, and you won't mess up and put any of the pins back into the connector in the wrong spot...

When you pull the cables out of the connector, use a tiny scrap piece of heatshrink around the metal ends, to hold them all together. They slid right through the sleeving with no snags. once you have them through, you can put the heatshrink on the ends as you normally would, then remove the "holder" piece by carefully cutting away that little scrap. Plug the cables into the correct hole in the connector, and you're all done.

Wish I'd taken a pic of this to illustrate. I'll see about posting one here and in the "Untitled" worklog, just in case anyone comes across this and needs a picture to help visualize...

The Dragon Reborn · 01-January-06, 11:31 AM

Pics! Good Idea, GrandpaNoob!

Here is a pic of the "ballpoint" trick...

TDR

GrandpaNoob72 · 01-January-06, 05:31 PM

Sorry it took me a bit to get back to this thread... Had some picture hosting problems with Imageshack, had to open a Photobucket account...

Anyhoo, here we go:

As I suggested, have two fans with three-pin connectors side by side when you start to sleeve one of them. For these pics, I'm using 3-pin to 3-pin extenders, since I'll be sleeving them anyways for use in my new case project...

You can pay about $5-$10 and use a special molex, or just be very careful and do what I did, use an X-Acto knife. Push down carefully on the little prongs inside the connector housing, and then gently pull them out. Remember to use the blade to (again!) gently pull the prongs back where they belong (so that they will stay put once you reinstall them in the housing).

Bunch the metal tips together as small as you can, and use a small piece of heatshrink tubing to keep them together. Try to get the very tip as small as possible, so it will help with getting the wires through the sleeving (second picture)

And that's about it... once you have it all the way through, slip the two end pieces of heatshrink on, do the one at the opposite end of the connectors first. Using the X-Acto knife, carefully remove the "itty bitty" piece of heatshrink, and replace the connectors in their proper slots in the housing. Position the second piece of heatshrink where you want it, and tighten it down with your heat source. DONE!

Error404 · 01-January-06, 10:12 PM

Thanks pops. Appreciate it. Sounds easy.

Thanks agian

GrandpaNoob72 · 01-January-06, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Error404


	Thanks pops. Appreciate it. Sounds easy. Thanks agian

Shoot, it's so easy I did it in my plaid PJs...

HigHTecHReDNecK · 01-January-06, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrandpaNoob72


	Shoot, it's so easy I did it in my plaid PJs...

MODDIN IN YER PJ'S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO USRMA you might could be the Prez.

GrandpaNoob72 · 01-January-06, 11:17 PM

I couldn't possibully except the nomanashun.... But I thank ya kindly fer thinkin' about me like that... Makes me feel all funny and stuff...

31-December-05, 09:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
Error404 Apex Advanced Techie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 167	What Size Sleeve? I'm wondering what size Sleeving should I get? I will be sleeving Fan tail cables, CCFL cables, and S-Video Cable from a LCD.. Should I get the 1/4" or the 1/8"? __________________ "He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife." - *Douglas Adams*

31-December-05, 09:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
GrandpaNoob72 Eleven-Bravo Sitrep Writer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fort Riley, KS (Back home where I BELONG!) Posts: 3,282	I'd go for the 1/4, simply for ease of install. The 1/8 might end up a tighter fit along the cables, but I've had a very hard time getting it to expand enough to get it over the fan connector wires... My $.02 for ya... __________________ A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America", for an amount of "up to and including my life". That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country, who no longer understand that...

31-December-05, 09:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
Error404 Apex Advanced Techie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 167	Thanks Pops. Appreciate your .02.. I'll just go with the 1/4.. I was gonna go with the 1/8.. but sounds like 1/4 will be easier. __________________ "He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife." - *Douglas Adams*

31-December-05, 10:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
GrandpaNoob72 Eleven-Bravo Sitrep Writer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fort Riley, KS (Back home where I BELONG!) Posts: 3,282	If you want to see how it looks, take a peek over at my Untitled worklog, got some pics of the sleeving I did last night. Power/reset button cables, fan cables, etc. I used 1/4 on it, and IMO, doesn't look all that bad for an "amateur" job... And you're welcome __________________ A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America", for an amount of "up to and including my life". That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country, who no longer understand that...

31-December-05, 11:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
Error404 Apex Advanced Techie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 167	That does look good, and you got the same idea as me lol.. FCPU could sleeve them, but hell, for 10 bucks for each fan and CCFL.. No thanks __________________ "He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife." - *Douglas Adams*

01-January-06, 06:47 AM	#6 (permalink)
The Dragon Reborn Apex Elite Expert Tech Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NL Posts: 1,267	I use 3mm (I believe that is 1/4") for the fan cables... at first I had some problems with the connectors.. then I just inserted a ball point pen into the sleeving. Pushed that along while inserting the wire... Works great! TDR __________________

01-January-06, 10:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
GrandpaNoob72 Eleven-Bravo Sitrep Writer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fort Riley, KS (Back home where I BELONG!) Posts: 3,282	A couple of little tricks I tried and it worked nicely for fan connectors: If you're doing more than one fan with the 3-pin connector, do one fan completely (pull pins, sleeve, heatshrink, re-connect) at a time, that way you have a connector nearby with the cables in the correct spot, and you won't mess up and put any of the pins back into the connector in the wrong spot... When you pull the cables out of the connector, use a tiny scrap piece of heatshrink around the metal ends, to hold them all together. They slid right through the sleeving with no snags. once you have them through, you can put the heatshrink on the ends as you normally would, then remove the "holder" piece by carefully cutting away that little scrap. Plug the cables into the correct hole in the connector, and you're all done. Wish I'd taken a pic of this to illustrate. I'll see about posting one here and in the "Untitled" worklog, just in case anyone comes across this and needs a picture to help visualize... __________________ A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America", for an amount of "up to and including my life". That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country, who no longer understand that...

01-January-06, 11:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
The Dragon Reborn Apex Elite Expert Tech Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NL Posts: 1,267	Pics! Good Idea, GrandpaNoob! Here is a pic of the "ballpoint" trick... TDR Attached Thumbnails __________________

01-January-06, 05:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
GrandpaNoob72 Eleven-Bravo Sitrep Writer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fort Riley, KS (Back home where I BELONG!) Posts: 3,282	Sorry it took me a bit to get back to this thread... Had some picture hosting problems with Imageshack, had to open a Photobucket account... Anyhoo, here we go: As I suggested, have two fans with three-pin connectors side by side when you start to sleeve one of them. For these pics, I'm using 3-pin to 3-pin extenders, since I'll be sleeving them anyways for use in my new case project... You can pay about $5-$10 and use a special molex, or just be very careful and do what I did, use an X-Acto knife. Push down carefully on the little prongs inside the connector housing, and then gently pull them out. Remember to use the blade to (again!) gently pull the prongs back where they belong (so that they will stay put once you reinstall them in the housing). Bunch the metal tips together as small as you can, and use a small piece of heatshrink tubing to keep them together. Try to get the very tip as small as possible, so it will help with getting the wires through the sleeving (second picture) And that's about it... once you have it all the way through, slip the two end pieces of heatshrink on, do the one at the opposite end of the connectors first. Using the X-Acto knife, carefully remove the "itty bitty" piece of heatshrink, and replace the connectors in their proper slots in the housing. Position the second piece of heatshrink where you want it, and tighten it down with your heat source. DONE! __________________ A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America", for an amount of "up to and including my life". That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country, who no longer understand that...

01-January-06, 10:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
Error404 Apex Advanced Techie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 167	Thanks pops. Appreciate it. Sounds easy. Thanks agian __________________ "He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife." - *Douglas Adams*

01-January-06, 11:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
GrandpaNoob72 Eleven-Bravo Sitrep Writer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fort Riley, KS (Back home where I BELONG!) Posts: 3,282	I couldn't possibully except the nomanashun.... But I thank ya kindly fer thinkin' about me like that... Makes me feel all funny and stuff... __________________ A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America", for an amount of "up to and including my life". That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country, who no longer understand that...

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