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Old 07-May-03, 04:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default PSU... how much power do you need?

One of my friends has just purchased his new computer, and bought a cold cathode for his case. He currently runs a 320W power supply unit, yet one of our other friends, upon hearing he had put a cathode in it, stated bluntly that he was stupid and that he needs at least a 400W power supply.

Is my other friend just full of it, or should he purchase a higher wattage PSU? IMHO I thought 320W should be enough power, considering he only runs one hard drive and doesn't plan to add another.

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Old 07-May-03, 05:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I really dont know the answer, but I dont think he will need a 400w.
I personally have a 400w and I run 2 cold cathodes off of it, 7(1 of them being a LED fan) case fans, cpu fan, and a digidoc5(plus temp sensors)

I've never had ANY problems with it so far....
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Old 07-May-03, 05:19 AM   #3 (permalink)
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no he dont, if you want details why, search the site, i have a 300 watt psu with a red neon, 7200 rpm hard drive, overclocked ti4200 and XP-1700, sb live 5.1, DVD rom, CDRW, 4 80mm case fans and an 80mm cpu fan...as a matter of fact, dont listen to this individual ever again...
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Old 07-May-03, 05:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
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lol, Yeah that sounds a good idea Fu3lman. Thanks for your advice.
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Old 07-May-03, 11:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Add up only the components below that your system has to determine wattage:

AGP video card - 35-50W
PCI video card - 35W
AMD Athlon 900MHz-1.3GHz - 50W-65W
AMD Athlon XP 1.47MHz-1.73GHz - 60-75W
AMD Duron 1.0MHz-1.3GHz - 50W
Intel Pentium III 800MHz-1.4GHz - 40W-55W
Intel Pentium 4 1.4GHz-2.0GHz - 65W-85W
Intel Pentium 4 Northwood 1.6GHz-2.0GHz - 60W-75W
Intel Pentium 4 Northwood 2.2GHz-2.53GHz - 80W-90W
Intel Celeron 1.0GHz-1.1GHz - 35W
Intel Celeron 1.2GHz-1.8GHz - 45W-65W
ATX Motherboard - 40W-65W
128MB RAM - 10W
256MB RAM - 20W
24X or higher IDE CD-RW Drive - 35W
32X or higher IDE CD-ROM Drive - 25W
10x or higher IDE DVD-ROM Drive - 20W
SCSI CD-RW Drive - 17W
SCSI CD-ROM Drive - 12W
5,400RPM IDE Hard Drive - 13W
7,200RPM IDE Hard Drive - 18W
7,200RPM SCSI Hard Drive - 24W
10,000RPM SCSI Hard Drive - 30W
15,000RPM SCSI Hard Drive - 45W
Floppy Drive - 5W
Network Card - 4W
Modem - 5W
Sound Card - 5W
SCSI Controller Card - 20W
Firewire/USB 2.0 Controller Card - 40W
Case Fan - 3W
CPU Fan - 3W

The wattage numbers above are estimates and may be rounded to the nearest 5 watts. The given wattage may only reach the specified level during power-up or during peak usage. Always purchase a power supply with a bit more wattage than you calculate you'll need, to make room for future upgrades.
PS Dont forget anything
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Old 07-May-03, 11:25 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Excellent Pimpage Duck. Nothing like an answer that works

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Old 07-May-03, 12:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Agreed. That list would've come in handy repeatedly. Where you been hiding it? Anyway, I copied & pasted it into a document for future reference. Good stuff.
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Old 07-May-03, 01:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Great list Duck...I got it saved this time...I seen you post it once before a long time ago, but didnt have sense to save it...lol
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Old 07-May-03, 02:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Great work, Duck!

Is the wattage on led case fans any higher than the standard type?
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Old 07-May-03, 02:36 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Is the wattage on led case fans any higher than the standard type?

Of course. Your led's are going to be pulling 3w each depending on how they are wired, but better to allow for more draw than not enough.
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Old 07-May-03, 02:39 PM   #11 (permalink)
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True dat!
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Old 07-May-03, 02:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Hey Duck, where's the CC wattage in that list?

For real though... Does any1 know how many watts a typical CC light / inverter uses?
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Old 21-May-03, 06:04 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Hey Duck, where's the CC wattage in that list?

For real though... Does any1 know how many watts a typical CC light / inverter uses?

3-6 watts

The exact draw really depends on the cathode but most are 3.75w more or less.

Its almost as if it doesnt exist

Now the older cathodes use more as well as neon tubes (Poor man's cold-cathode).
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Old 23-May-03, 06:33 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I am running the following on a stock Dell 250w PSU(the Britney Spears of PSUs):
P4 2.4GHz (80w)
Dell mobo (40w)
640MB RAM (50w)
GeForce 4 MX 420 (35w)
48x24x48 CD-RW (35w)
16x DVD-ROM (20w)
2 7200RPM HDs (18w each)
PSU fan (3w)
CPU/case fan (~8w(12v x 0.68A))
Total load: 307W!!!
I got the numbers off Duck's list, and I assume all parts use the minimum in the list(probably not the case).
Voltages(measured using DMM with Fear Factor(to load the GPU) and distributed.net(to load the CPU) running):
12v: 11.99
5v: 5.02
3.3v: 3.30
I am pulling over 300w from a 250w PSU, and the rails aren't even dropping!
Besides the rails being almost perfect, the PSU is very quiet(I cannot hear it over the CPU fan(which is very quiet, too)), so I think the Dell PSU is a modified Antec Truepower(it is WTX instead of ATX(I have heard some rumors that a 250w Dell PSU is a relabeled Antec Truepower 330w)).
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