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Old 14-August-02, 06:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i just finished ordering my crystal fontz lcd cuz they said no we wont give you free engineering samples you damn engineering department! and im wondering if you people out there with lcd displays regret dropping $72 dollars (washington tax+4x20 negbacklit+normal shipping) was totally not worth it. this thing is boreing i never really look at it. dont bother. or do you think its toatally worth it? i was thinking i could use it in basic stamp projects too since its serial.
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Old 14-August-02, 12:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well if that's what you really want to hear, then you have just bought more crap

Sure it's boring, but it's still cool. It's much the same for any of that stuff we add to our PC's. It's not really needed, but it's still cool.
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Old 14-August-02, 01:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I for one regret buying one of those stupid little LCDs for my comp. I literally cant even remember the last time i looked at it =P
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Old 14-August-02, 01:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Well, I just installed a CrystalFontz LCD the other day (review coming soon) and I love it....

After getting it running and seeing how versatile it is I wondered why I never got one sooner. From now on my pcs WILL have an LCD in them... Eye-catching and VERY useful for me as I have mine setup with plenty of stat info. You will see inthe forthcoming review.

I for one don't think you got crap... Good buy... Now, would I buy this over more ram? No. If you have plenty of ram, are satisfied with your hard drives, cpu, mobo, etc... Then definitely go for the LCD. Very versatile piece of gear.
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Old 14-August-02, 08:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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your right it is just a novelty that is just cool. like rounded cables and the neon lights. im sure it should give my visitors that wow factor when they see it.
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Old 14-August-02, 09:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i forgot to mention that i hate sales tax. whos stupid ass idea was it to have this sales tax anyways? i think its like 8 point something percent but it still sux. but at least since the company is in the same state i got overnight with normal fedex shipping. same day shipped out 1-5 days and they called to say its comeing tomarrow. wow 1-5 day regualr shipping that dosent actually take 6 days. that is a first
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Old 15-August-02, 01:31 AM   #7 (permalink)
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The 3 biggest things I like about my display is:

1) The Temperature readout

2) The 4 Line Clock

3) The WinAmp Equalizer



I certainly always peer at these numbers
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Old 15-August-02, 04:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
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WHAT SOFTWARE IS THAT?
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Old 15-August-02, 01:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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That is driven with LCDC with the Mother Board Monitor 5 and Winamp plugins.
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Old 16-August-02, 01:00 AM   #10 (permalink)
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FEh... just buy a real lcd screen

https://www.overclockershideout.com/...tegory_Code=DE
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Old 16-August-02, 01:12 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally posted by ninjas
FEh... just buy a real lcd screen

https://www.overclockershideout.com/...tegory_Code=DE

Phffft... Been there, sucks donkey! :p
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Old 16-August-02, 01:20 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Do I have to go Green Hornet on your @$$ ?
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Old 16-August-02, 01:38 AM   #13 (permalink)
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FEh... i tred a real lcd tv. with the tv out on my gforce 4ti as a second monitor. it sucked ass. and i hate lcd monitors. crts are the best image currently.
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Old 16-August-02, 01:51 AM   #14 (permalink)
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oh and my lcd came intoday but im now telling you about it at night cuz now i got the software to work and build my custom arcylic box to put it in. it will be more useful with better software.
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Old 16-August-02, 08:27 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Do I have to go Green Hornet on your @$$ ?

Bring It On Ninja Boy!

Here are some photos that I took to show your "Real LCD"

The photos are taken from my 5" Marshall 960x234 LCD with VGA input. The text is barely legitable and winamp looks really bad on it.

Warning: the full size photos are 2048x1536 but represent what the LCD truely looks like displaying VGA



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I too wanted to incorporate one of my small LCD's in a PC mod, however I found the results to be far from worth it. I recommend the money is better spent on a good 20x4 line display instead, or maybe a graphical LCD display. These small LCD's just don't display VGA signals well at all and are best left to NTSC.

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Old 16-August-02, 08:35 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Want some more?


Here is the Dual VGA set-up


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The VGA input still sucks as you can see by the pictures. Text is barely legible. I ran this as an extended desk top with the browser window dragged over to the 5" LCD Monitor. Setting was 640x480, 60Hz, 24 bit color.

So how does it look displaying DVD video? Not bad I guess, if that's all a person has. It still has the screen door effect of an LCD and text can be blocky at times. Black levels are not that great.

I could not get Power DVD to display the video in the 5" LCD window. So I connected it to my Xbox with a composite out. I know the Xbox may not render an image as good as my console DVD player, however it was the simplist to connect with out tearing apart my system.


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There is just a bit of moire in the picture that is not actually present in the LCD's image. It's not excellent, however it is pretty good by 5" LCD standards.

Bottom Line, I still would not recommend small LCD's with VGA inputs for PC mods, and think a 4x20 line display would be better, that's just me. LCD just seem to be the in mod right now, regardless of how terrible the image can be. However it's your mod and money so if you must absolutely have it to be cool and all that, knock yourself out!

If your talking about "Real LCD's" as in 15" and up, I have those too and would give it up before I gave up my CRT. LCD's look sexy and display text well, so if your web surfing or programing they are sufficent for that. However due to it's limited resolutions of 1024x768 or 1280x1024 they really are useless for CAD or Photo editing. A CRT is the only way to go for they represent colors much more truely. Never mind the poor black levels and streaking that is typically inherent in LCD's.

Now your turn, you were saying?

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Old 16-August-02, 10:16 AM   #17 (permalink)
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w00t!! Everything ViperZ just said(typed??) is absolutely correct, I know, I used to sell LCD panels when I worked for IBM...
Sure they look pretty, but like ViperZ said, they suck for CAD, photoediting and most of all GAMES! The just look nasty...and if you don't have the game set at the res the LCD is, it shifts to a corner of the screen at whatever size the game is...is sux
As for windows, XP's new cleartype thingy helps a lot, but it's still not perfect... 'nuf said
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Old 16-August-02, 12:00 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Thanks ProtoGremlin! He was refering to the small 4-6" LCD's as he posted the link that was to FEh the character LCD's.

I just threw in the bigger panels for good measure
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Old 16-August-02, 12:36 PM   #19 (permalink)
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ViperZ: Whats the drive bay bezel you got your lcd in? is it a standard lian li one thats been cut? or did you get it somewhere? also what do you like personally? crystal fontz or matrix orbital?
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Old 16-August-02, 12:50 PM   #20 (permalink)
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ViperZ, I know they don't make your model anymore, but which model is probably closest to yours?
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