Son93SL2

I came to this website because I saw the rigs in your gallery and decided that it would be nice to have one of my own too. I did some research and found a nice case with a pre-modded window for less cost than what it would cost me to do myself.

I added some cathodes, some nice fans, drilled a couple of holes and IÂ’m done.

IÂ’m extremely happy with the way that my case turned out but now I am getting sh!t from some people on this board that I should have bought one for $68 plus $20 shiping and handling and bought a $20 window kit and spend 2 days doing it myself. I donÂ’t think so. If it is cheaper to spend $87 on a computer case with nice lines and a perfectly precut window than what I can do myself and IÂ’m happy with it, then damn, at least give a newbie a thumbs up for a good first try.

ducati748r

well a first try at modding is doing it your self. not to put you down , but if all you do is buy modded hardware and slap it together you didn't mod it you assembled it. sorry bro there is a difference. eiter you mod a case or you assemble it. in your case you assembled it.

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Fu3lman

i agree, i dont even have a modded case but i plan on getting something nice and do NOT plan cutting...because i do not have the space and tools for it...or the money...

im only gonna put a few bullet holes in it...and paint it...

as long as the case reflects what YOU think is cool and looks nice to you, then there is no reason why you should be ashamed that you bought a pre modded...hell...the real laamas are the ones bashing you because what you have isnt what they would have done...and its one of your first anyway, what are THEY doing to progress the scene...nothing...btw, id love to see pics of what you came up with...

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piscikeeper

thumbs up.if YOU are happy with it,then that is what matters.
on the other hand,however,modding is an artform of personal expression.
with a pre-mod,the choices start to become limited.with limited room for change,the odds of seeing the same thing will go up.
i'm a n00b too,so i expect to take flack over the square window in my case.it was a matter of personal taste to display the painted interior and drive cages to maximum ability.
with that said,it really comes down to what you feel a modded case is about.myself,i would rather start from zero and give it some extra effort.

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BZA

basically Ducati said it. When you look at coel's gargoyle case and then look at yours. (and the other 1000 that were sold last month) you will automatically see which is the true "mod". there is nothing wrong with buying a pre-modded case, hell, pre-mods outnumber do it yourself's 3 or 4 to 1, im sure!

Think of it this way. You have a fiberglass kit-car of a Shelby Cobra. and then walk into a Cobra club meeting. would you expect everybody to ooh and ahh over your $15,000 kit when in a room full of ppl who spend 20 years and tens of thousands of dollars and labor restoring theirs? No doubt yours is a nice case, but a robot arm and a laser cutter in some factory in Taiwan did the work and who knows who gave the thought. whereas in other peoples case, trial and error and sweat in a garage did it.

its just 2 different paths to a cool case. nothing "wrong" with pre-mods... but it isnt the same as doing it yourself.

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NapalmStixToKidz

its all about bein unique. just like your car, your home, your room, your bed, its YOURS that you can call your own. When you buy a premod, then see your neighbor's with the same thing, i personally would feel invaded. but when i went and painted my case a diff color and cut diff designs, rather than a square or rectangle; it gave me a sence of accomplishment, but also, it was MINE!..no one would have anything like it...so, if you're happy, be happy, but dont expect a site about modding and uniqueness to praise you for spending two hours on it.....when ppl here spend days, weeks, or even months doin mods. i mean look at clowns project. a game server w/ two PSU's and what a 12 port switch in the computer??...it's all about idea's man.....

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lcpiper

Son9, let me make this clear from the start. I am not knocking what you have done, I just want to clarify what the guys are talking about so you understand where they are coming from.

First off, I would like to define "mod" a little. Modding isn't about the look alone and I will focus on the window example as it applies in this case. A "mod" is something that you change, from start to finish, and it's all your work, or at least everything but the idea, (that's where the word original comes from).

Here are some examples:

This is a pre-modded window, it looks good and it's clean and even cost effective. But there is nothing original about it.



This is a case with a window kit added, it can still look good depending on your skill, but again, there is no original work here.



This is a real mod, the idea isn't very original anymore, but the work definitly is and this is what the guys are talking about.



The guys aren't "knocking" you, they are encouraging you to raise yourself to the next level. Although the words sound the same, it is the real meaning behind them that is different. They are not bashing you, they are encouraging you to be better.

It is the motivation behind the words that makes the difference, and it's the straight up, in your face honesty that makes Pimprig the best modding site around. Our guys will take the time, and make the effort to tell you truthfully what we think of your efforts, and suggest how you can do it better the next time.

I would bet real money that our bro Wixx isn't going to be the only PR member to make "Rig of the Month" in MaximumPC magazine. Maybe the next one will be you

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Son93SL2

i SEE. Reguarding cars, I am a car fanatic, and seeing a factory car with factory ground effects are interesting, but mainly I like cars to look stock but drive fast as f*ck (no fatT pipes)

I drilled some holes in it and put it together. And now it looks like everyone else's with a window and some lights inside but with a really clean window and no ugly rubber molding.

I do see what some people are saying and your point is taken.

I did not expect to catch so much flack becaue it came with a window and a temperature gauge.

Here is what I did by the way for those of you who don't know.


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Son93SL2

Ok, yeah that window does rock...

all I was reading was, pre-modding (and the barf smiley)

lcpiper

Well, some of our members are less eloquent

That is a nice way of saying that some of the newer guys feel like they are contributing by jumping on the same old comments, (pre-modded, paint drives, rats nest for wiring, etc...).

Reguardless of how true the statements may be, it is an easy way to jump in and do their part to help out. It's just that a view lack the finesse to make constructive critism sound constructive

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ducati748r

thanks fot the props on my case lcpiper that meant a lot to me.

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Fu3lman

...the only "mod" i have done so far that is unique to me is the dent i put in the side of my case with a screwdriver in a fit of rage...so i dont have a ton of room to talk here...

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NapalmStixToKidz

son9, i would like to see that lcd in the front in action if you ever get teh chance....

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Fu3lman

Quote: Originally posted by ducati748r thanks fot the props on my case lcpiper that meant a lot to me.

ya, that pack of winstons just sets the whole thing off

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putwig

I would just like to add a couple things.

There is nothing at all wrong with a pre-mod case! They look good, have nice clean lines, are well thought out, and usually have well thought out airflow.

95% of people out there in life would see your pre-mod case and think it was fantastic, and there is nothing wrong with that.

However, when you show up at one of the premier case modding sites (the premier in my opinion) you just can't expect us to get really excited!

Those of us who frequent this site love this hobby! We take great pride in our craft. I it is all about doing the work yourself and seeing what you come up with.

My current case has been under construction for most of the past year.

You installed some lights and fans ....... it just is not the same!

So, I think that case is nice. I think your rig is nice.

But when you post it on a case modding site and ask what we think ......... don't expect to get great feedback on the mods (or lack thereof).

I hope that helps clarify the situation.

I offer you the oppurtunity to take a look around, see what we are talking about.....but I must warn you, once you get hooked it is all over but the crying!

I also understand that not everyone has the time, money, or even the desire to mod. That is fine! Stick around anyhow....it is a great technical forum as well, and a wonderful community!

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ducati748r

Quote: Originally posted by Fu3lman ya, that pack of winstons just sets the whole thing off

yea you shoul see how manyempty pack are on the floor after i got done cuttin up that case....

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trenchcoatangel

My pov is that money shouldn't eben be an issue once you get past the basic cost of a dremel. I believe someone said $20.00 for a window kit, my window cost me $2.50! Try to find some surplus stores in your area and do some mod shopping. I picked up the acrylic for $.58 a pound, and the edging was $1.50 at menards, My case in total cost me about $8 to mod. Half the fun of modding in my opinion, is making something awsome for half of what a consumer computer or pre-mod case would cost.

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CRE

Very well put Putwig!

I must agree with trench... I got the acrylic out of the trash bin at Home Depot... the manager said it was scrap and to go ahead...

So, outside of the case I bought (which I needed for this new machine anyway), I'm only in it for a few Dremel cut off wheels and a pair of CCFLs.

I personally do like the case you own (although I'm really sick of seeing so many bare aluminum cases). But, this is a kind of art for us here... It's as if you were asking a museum or gallery for an opinion on a paint-by-numbers job when there's a Monet on the wall.

Anyway, there's nothing wrong with your case. (think about paint )

lcpiper

My latest thought on this subject

It is a funny thing in a way, that many of the regulars, (myself included), talk fondly of what PR is.

The funny part is that PR is nothing more then our active membership, and that is always growing, so the PR attitude changes with it.

I have seen PR grow and mature a great deal in less than a years time, and yet the core of the site is still the same. That is because the foundation of PR was built by some guys with common sense.

GK put this site up, asked for some help from some decent guys, and the site almost runs itself. Oh, he puts in hugh hours of hard work on the webadmin side. And GK and DW do a tremendous amount of "behind the scenes" work that most of us can't see.

But the forums and the news just sort of happen all by themselves because of the continuous contribution of the rest of the staff, and other members that just want to do something for the rest of us.

So PR is the same and new all at the same time. It is a mod in the making always evolving but never really changing in it's purpose.

I hope you all love it here, I do.

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baldwooky

Theres nothing wrong with Pre-modded if thats what you want.
Personally, for my newest mod, I picked up this same case you did from directron (it was no sale) just because I didn't want to go through the trouble of cutting out a bunch of stuff.

However, once I got this case, I saw the window and wanted to puke. Its small, positioned in the wrong spot and as we all know the UV cold cathodes suck (ok well mine does, and all the sites sell the same one)so having a UV sensitive window is worthless and well, wth kind of ugly design is that window supposed to be, and how can it possibly match any design.

So being the consumate perfectionist I took out the handy dremmel and cut all but a 1/2" border on the side panel to epoxy the lexan too and added to fans onto it one pointing at the cpu, the other on my vid card.

So anyways, to reinerate, pre mods are ok...better than beige at least, but your better off buying a dremmel, a cheapy case and a large sheet off plexi, it costs you abit more, but you have the ability to do anything with your case you want and make something that noone else has.

Should be getting a DC to borrow soon, Ill post some pics of what I did.

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