Okay, this is the deal, I am building a case from scratch and I bought some special aluminum fans to match the theme of the stainless case. Recently i bought an epox 8rda3+ and some 3200 DDR Ram to replace the old stuff. The basic problem I am having is with the CPU fan. I have a zalman fan which has a huge flower copper heatsink and a 92mm fan above it blowing air onto the heatsink... (?). In addition I installed a 120mm intake fan in the front and switched the two side fans to intake when my heating problem started. It's getting kind of hot here in Colorado and that has some to do with it. But I have a shutoff temp at 65 degrees celcius and i can't seem to avoid hitting it. I installed a new heatsink (same type) that i had lying around after cleaning off the processor core with watered down 70% isopropyl and applied Arctic Silvr 5.

In addition to all of this I had recently isntalled a 120mm aluminum fan to replace the 92mm black fan that came stock with the zalman heatsink...

well, those are all the modifications that I have made, can you all think of anything?

Do you have any fans that remove the hot air from the case? Or are all your fans intakes?

Quote: Originally Posted by microsoftman Okay, this is the deal, I am building a case from scratch and I bought some special aluminum fans to match the theme of the stainless case. Recently i bought an epox 8rda3+ and some 3200 DDR Ram to replace the old stuff. The basic problem I am having is with the CPU fan. I have a zalman fan which has a huge flower copper heatsink and a 92mm fan above it blowing air onto the heatsink... (?). In addition I installed a 120mm intake fan in the front and switched the two side fans to intake when my heating problem started. It's getting kind of hot here in Colorado and that has some to do with it. But I have a shutoff temp at 65 degrees celcius and i can't seem to avoid hitting it. I installed a new heatsink (same type) that i had lying around after cleaning off the processor core with watered down 70% isopropyl and applied Arctic Silvr 5. In addition to all of this I had recently isntalled a 120mm aluminum fan to replace the 92mm black fan that came stock with the zalman heatsink... well, those are all the modifications that I have made, can you all think of anything?

I would remount the heatsink. Make sure you remove the old grease and apply new grease on the cpu too.

Does it still overheat when you keep the side panel off of your case? Do you have a different HSF you can try?

Yeah, I'd say remount the HSF, thoroughly clean the core/base of the HSF, try lapping the HSF at last resort, then reapply the thermal goop correctly, then make sure the HSF is mounted level. If you can manage to boot to be able to reflash your BIOS, do so. That could be an issue, I'm not sure of particular issues with that board.

I already remounted the Heatsink. And then when that didn't work, I went back and thoroughly cleaned the processor core and then installed a BRAND NEW heatsink... still getting the problem. the case dropped a few degrees in temp when i took off the side.... but not that great.


this sucks

i used to get good temps at near silence

What kind of cpu do you have? Does it reach 65 degrees when its not under load? Did you check your BIOS settings to make sure nothing is OCed?

How long does it take for your computer to overheat and shutdown? If this is happening almost immediately or sometimes might be sporadic you might wanna consider a psu or ram problem. However with those temps on your cpu i doubt it. Id try clearing cmos and staying at the safe defaults. Have you tried another cpu of equal or close to value? Whats your vcore voltage at? Are you sure someone hasnt snuck in and oc'd your rig? hehe probablly not huh. Are you setting up your cpu safe shutdown through your BIOS or another program? If it is another program the reading might be set at Fahrenheit instead of Celsius, and that would be a major kick in the ass--if it is even possible for a program to be like that. Good Luck and let us know!

alright, i think it is probably the cpu. i am not sure why something like this would happen. i am going to try to borrow a cpu around 2100 like I have (amd of course). I'll try restting the CMOS, and perhaps flashing the BIOS if that is going to make a difference. The temperature shutdown feature is in the bios and I honestly don't think that it is reading the temperature incorrectly because my pure copper heatsink gets hot to the touch when it says it hits 65* C.

sometimes i hate my rig.

i just bought some new ram a new mobo, two SATA seagates in Raid 0 and now this happen.... geez!

...lower your cpu voltages...

i still say you need an exhaust fan. my gateway case, it was just posted in the galleries, has a 120MM intake and an 80MM exhaust and with careful wire management and a huge Volcano 11 my temps idle at about 44*C, i know its high but its decent when the PSU is sitting like one inch over the CPU fan.

alright, i went into the BIOS and turned on the fail-safe defaults settings. that means that my 2100+ runs at 1500+ setting. well, besides that sucking quite a bit... my temps are still pretty high... but nowhere near my shutdown 65* C. well, actually, they're at 55*C. is there any reason that a processor might cause this to happen? i've been noticing high temps ever since i took the processor out of my old mobo and put it into my new one. would anything like a chipped corner on the cpu or something like that result in higher temps?

Quote: Originally Posted by microsoftman alright, i went into the BIOS and turned on the fail-safe defaults settings. that means that my 2100+ runs at 1500+ setting. well, besides that sucking quite a bit... my temps are still pretty high... but nowhere near my shutdown 65* C. well, actually, they're at 55*C. is there any reason that a processor might cause this to happen? i've been noticing high temps ever since i took the processor out of my old mobo and put it into my new one. would anything like a chipped corner on the cpu or something like that result in higher temps?

Is this the heatsink you're using? If so, it's not that great, and you're definitely going to have problems, especially when overclocking. There have been reported problems with the BIOS on some motherboards actually sending CPU temperature through the roof...I don't remember which board and BIOS revision it was though. I do remember flashing to an earlier BIOS resolved the problem. You may want to try that. If you run the system (at stock speeds) with the case side off, does the CPU temp get any better?

well, i'm not overclocking at all

right now i'm underclocking... i have a 2100+ and i'm running it at 1500+.... that's pathetic.... and it's still running hot... if i take the side off it helps a bit.......

i've had that heatsink for a long time and have noticed that it is not that great... but this is just ridiculous... i have had teh comp running for two hot summers with no real problems....

i think i might have chipped a corner on my CPU... would this cause heat problems... ?????!!??

what's really funny is that I am not a noob at computers... the last computer i built ran at like 33*C on full load and that was with cheap ass cooloing system with a few of my modifications

have you tried putting a metal plate on top of the heatsink and doing some pan frying? Sounds like you could get some bacon going on there.

Hmmm, metal plates......might have to try that mod on my Voodoo 5

Quote: Originally Posted by microsoftman i think i might have chipped a corner on my CPU... would this cause heat problems... ?????!!??

In a word, no. The only problems a chipped core would exibit is non-funcionality.

I, too, had chipped the core on my 1800+...ran perfectly until I sold it.

Do the BIOS flash.

J-D, times have changed since your hardware was made...this is pimpin' NEW-skool style - on-line internet BIOS flash.

Okay, well thanks to all who have been trying to help me with this problem, I have come up with a very very very temporary solution. I present to you the future of microprocessor cooling:



Notice the clever utilization of the generic fan on the right. That puppy must be a 600mm blower, oh yeah!

But, in all seriousness, I still have a problem, I am running this CPU at 1500+ when it is actually 2100+ (without overclocking).

The white fan on the right brought the temperature down by about 15* C. But still, that is 49*C, which is pretty damn bad, even for air cooling.

So, what I NEED TO KNOW, is whether or not a damaged processor core will cause a processor to overheat. The last time I was cleaning off the core I noticed a chipped corner ... this is bad, i thought, i'm a dumbass.


so, will it?

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see my post above.

well, J-Dogg anwered my last question as I asked it, thanks J-Dogg. what is this internet flash you speak of?

Quote: Originally Posted by microsoftman well, J-Dogg anwered my last question as I asked it, thanks J-Dogg. what is this internet flash you speak of?

I'm pimp_joose, not j-dogg.

Unfortunately, it seems Epox does not have an on-line BIOS flash on their web site. You can, however download the new (or old) BIOS files and update them off-line.

If you're not sure how to update your BIOS, then check out the Epox site for instructions.