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staff94 · 03-November-03, 11:18 AM

Well, after lots of thoughts of computer physics and cooling systems. I have came up with the coolest idea. Do you like beer? And do you like computers?

Well comming soon is the new computer in a mini frige! It cool's your beer, it cool's your computer. Its the ultimate!

Well, this is going to take about 2 months of work. Because there is the need of time for ordering some special cooling parts so I do not frezze over the computer's componets.

Remember this. The bugget is $7,000.

FoeHammer · 03-November-03, 11:28 AM

The biggest problem I think you are going to have to deal with is condensation.

Post some layout ideas or rough drawings of how you are going to set it up. I'd like to see how you propose to do it.

Evil3lf · 03-November-03, 11:44 AM

First off, if you think you are the first you are not, there are many of them. Secondly the only thing you need to get rid of condensation is a good dehumudifier. Talk to a local cigar shop to get a dehumidifier tell them whats for so they give you one powerful enough.

Jonny English · 03-November-03, 11:45 AM

I can't get very enthusiatic about this - every 6 months or so someone posts this idea, then fails to deliver

Good luck

... but I'll believe it when I see it.

Evil3lf · 03-November-03, 11:58 AM

Another note, THIS MOD IS VERY DIFFICULT AND TIME CONSUMING. Modder to modder here I would also like to tell you DO NOT TEST IT WITH EXPENSIVE HARDWARE! use the cheapest p100 setup u can find to test it and make sure it turns on and runs for a week w.o dieing.

neotheducky · 03-November-03, 12:18 PM

Evil, give the guy some credit for trying to undertake such a mod. Dont dishearten the guy.

I like your idea and with a budget like that you should be able to finish it off very professionally. You might want to consider going just the vapochill route. Then send the rest of the cash to me

. Daddy needs a new computer

Arkangyl · 03-November-03, 02:41 PM

I look forward to seeing the finished product staff94...

and with that budget

who knows what you'll put in there!!! Could PR see its first Athlon FX computer??

Joose · 03-November-03, 02:41 PM

The problem, staff94, is that a computer is constantly generating heat. Beer doesn't. Once it gets down to the desired temp, it stays there - the thermal load that beer (or any food for that matter) presents to the fridge to be cooled is very low. A computer, on the other hand, generates a very high load to be cooled, and a fridge isn't designed to cool things generating heat.

Good luck, but I think the money would be better spend on a Vapochill or something like that...then donate the rest to charity. I know a good one...the "send Pimp_Joose's 4 kids to College Fund" is always accepting donations...

Ben · 03-November-03, 02:47 PM

Buy yourself a vapochill and a mini fridge, duct tape the vapo so it sits on top of the fridge and your set. Not only would you have lower temps then a fridge, but the vapo is just cooler. Anotehr problem with using a actual fridge is that they are not designed to run all the time, so the motor would burn up pretty fast...

lAnonymousl · 03-November-03, 02:59 PM

Read this thread before attempting this. It got shot down pretty damn quick....(follow all the links as well)
http://forums.pcapex.com/showthread....&threadid=9876

Evil3lf · 03-November-03, 04:48 PM

The reason I tell him its so hard is so he doesn't get his hopes up that it will work because they usually dont.

Krostillian · 03-November-03, 05:08 PM

I think it has distinct possibilities as long as you realize that there are two distinct cooling needs. Possibly a large (Compaq 6000 type) case divided into seperate cooling zones with seperate cooling systems. I beleive I saw a coffee maker / PC here on PR. After all ... seven grand is quite a budget.

Evil3lf · 03-November-03, 06:37 PM

that pc was in max pc

Jonny English · 03-November-03, 08:44 PM

_duh!_

Ben · 03-November-03, 08:46 PM

At Krostillian ant Evil3lf

Evil3lf · 03-November-03, 10:09 PM

staff94 · 04-November-03, 06:01 AM

I know theres a condensation isshu, I allready got that future problam fixed.

HawkEye_Pierce · 04-November-03, 09:51 AM

Just pack the inside of the computer full of great stuff expanding foam.

I think Krostillian has an excelent plan. By seperating the case in half, on side beer, one side computer, you would have a better chance.

-Or- MY PLAN

Cool the entire case with a minifridge, but cool the proc with a vapochill or prometia. This way the only thermal load you would be looking at would be the mobo.

In my plan, you would still be cooling the computer somewhat with the fridge, but not putting too much thermal load on it.

Whadda you think?

BigAkita · 04-November-03, 09:58 AM

The way the Vapo deals with condensation is by heating the CPU up. The vaporizing arm chills the core down to sub zero temps, but there is a heating "blanket" that lays on top of the rest of the CPU that heats it so condensation won't form.

Jonny English · 04-November-03, 10:00 AM

How about just using the fridge as the case & junking the compressor & cooling bits?

As long as a light comes on when the door is opened, who gives a smeg ?

03-November-03, 11:18 AM		#1 (permalink)
staff94 Apex Techie Lite	New 2004 Mod Well, after lots of thoughts of computer physics and cooling systems. I have came up with the coolest idea. Do you like beer? And do you like computers? Well comming soon is the new computer in a mini frige! It cool's your beer, it cool's your computer. Its the ultimate! Well, this is going to take about 2 months of work. Because there is the need of time for ordering some special cooling parts so I do not frezze over the computer's componets. Remember this. The bugget is $7,000.

03-November-03, 08:46 PM		#15 (permalink)
Ben Mote-Hoe-Cross	At Krostillian ant Evil3lf Attached Thumbnails

03-November-03, 10:09 PM		#16 (permalink)
Evil3lf Lokie's Elf of Evil	D:

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03-November-03, 11:28 AM		#2 (permalink)
FoeHammer P-Hoe-lice	The biggest problem I think you are going to have to deal with is condensation. Post some layout ideas or rough drawings of how you are going to set it up. I'd like to see how you propose to do it.

03-November-03, 11:44 AM		#3 (permalink)
Evil3lf Lokie's Elf of Evil	First off, if you think you are the first you are not, there are many of them. Secondly the only thing you need to get rid of condensation is a good dehumudifier. Talk to a local cigar shop to get a dehumidifier tell them whats for so they give you one powerful enough.

03-November-03, 11:45 AM		#4 (permalink)
Jonny English Etiquette & English Gentleman	I can't get very enthusiatic about this - every 6 months or so someone posts this idea, then fails to deliver Good luck ... but I'll believe it when I see it.

03-November-03, 11:58 AM		#5 (permalink)
Evil3lf Lokie's Elf of Evil	Another note, THIS MOD IS VERY DIFFICULT AND TIME CONSUMING. Modder to modder here I would also like to tell you DO NOT TEST IT WITH EXPENSIVE HARDWARE! use the cheapest p100 setup u can find to test it and make sure it turns on and runs for a week w.o dieing.

03-November-03, 12:18 PM		#6 (permalink)
neotheducky Rubber Duck-Hoe	Evil, give the guy some credit for trying to undertake such a mod. Dont dishearten the guy. I like your idea and with a budget like that you should be able to finish it off very professionally. You might want to consider going just the vapochill route. Then send the rest of the cash to me . Daddy needs a new computer

03-November-03, 02:41 PM		#7 (permalink)
Arkangyl Hoe-lier than Thou	I look forward to seeing the finished product staff94... and with that budget who knows what you'll put in there!!! Could PR see its first Athlon FX computer??

03-November-03, 02:41 PM		#8 (permalink)
Joose Joosey	The problem, staff94, is that a computer is constantly generating heat. Beer doesn't. Once it gets down to the desired temp, it stays there - the thermal load that beer (or any food for that matter) presents to the fridge to be cooled is very low. A computer, on the other hand, generates a very high load to be cooled, and a fridge isn't designed to cool things generating heat. Good luck, but I think the money would be better spend on a Vapochill or something like that...then donate the rest to charity. I know a good one...the "send Pimp_Joose's 4 kids to College Fund" is always accepting donations...

03-November-03, 02:47 PM		#9 (permalink)
Ben Mote-Hoe-Cross	Buy yourself a vapochill and a mini fridge, duct tape the vapo so it sits on top of the fridge and your set. Not only would you have lower temps then a fridge, but the vapo is just cooler. Anotehr problem with using a actual fridge is that they are not designed to run all the time, so the motor would burn up pretty fast...

03-November-03, 02:59 PM		#10 (permalink)
lAnonymousl The Who? Hoe	Read this thread before attempting this. It got shot down pretty damn quick....(follow all the links as well) http://forums.pcapex.com/showthread....&threadid=9876

03-November-03, 04:48 PM		#11 (permalink)
Evil3lf Lokie's Elf of Evil	The reason I tell him its so hard is so he doesn't get his hopes up that it will work because they usually dont.

03-November-03, 05:08 PM		#12 (permalink)
Krostillian Apex Advanced Techie	I think it has distinct possibilities as long as you realize that there are two distinct cooling needs. Possibly a large (Compaq 6000 type) case divided into seperate cooling zones with seperate cooling systems. I beleive I saw a coffee maker / PC here on PR. After all ... seven grand is quite a budget.

03-November-03, 06:37 PM		#13 (permalink)
Evil3lf Lokie's Elf of Evil	that pc was in max pc

03-November-03, 08:44 PM		#14 (permalink)
Jonny English Etiquette & English Gentleman	_duh!_

04-November-03, 06:01 AM		#17 (permalink)
staff94 Apex Techie Lite	I know theres a condensation isshu, I allready got that future problam fixed.

04-November-03, 09:51 AM		#18 (permalink)
HawkEye_Pierce Ham Op-Hoe-rator	Just pack the inside of the computer full of great stuff expanding foam. I think Krostillian has an excelent plan. By seperating the case in half, on side beer, one side computer, you would have a better chance. -Or- MY PLAN Cool the entire case with a minifridge, but cool the proc with a vapochill or prometia. This way the only thermal load you would be looking at would be the mobo. In my plan, you would still be cooling the computer somewhat with the fridge, but not putting too much thermal load on it. Whadda you think?

04-November-03, 09:58 AM		#19 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer	The way the Vapo deals with condensation is by heating the CPU up. The vaporizing arm chills the core down to sub zero temps, but there is a heating "blanket" that lays on top of the rest of the CPU that heats it so condensation won't form.

04-November-03, 10:00 AM		#20 (permalink)
Jonny English Etiquette & English Gentleman	How about just using the fridge as the case & junking the compressor & cooling bits? As long as a light comes on when the door is opened, who gives a smeg ?