I was just curious. I know cable management and having a clean setup allows air to flow better through the case (and better cool stuff) but how much is overkill? I just recently re-did the inside of my case since I got a new CPU and video card and I spent several hours (a lot more than I should've) putting it together.



Sorry for the metal bars in the way...forgot to take a pic before I put it back in my desk.

Very tidy rig

It seems to me that the further away from the fan and/or intake/outake port, the less effect cables will have on airflow.

In most instances.

I think your rig is very nicely organized and tidy and you did a good job with managing to get your rig to look clean., i do not think it is overkill to tidy up your pc it shows that you know and have the skills to do what it takes and the patience to manage all those wires in a pc..

I got a little nutty and even made the USB cables for the easy access header (at the top of the case...if you're familiar with the Tusnami Dream its at the middle of the top panel) at the top go behind the motherboard plate. About 1/2" after the USB headers plug into the mobo (bottom center of the mobo) the go behind the motherboard and exit through a hole that I dremeled in the plate. You'd probably laugh if you saw "the snake" if you saw behind the case panel on the other side. All the loose molex connectors and plugs and stuff were conveniently chucked into a nice "sausage'" and zip-tied together.

No such thing as overkill, its more of a sense of pride. Its your rig, you want it to perform and look good at the same time. So a couple of hours tucking, tieing, and hiding them is worth it.

Very nice rig. And just as Lokie says there's no such thing as overkill.

You might also look into reverse mounting your hard drives so even the sata cables don't show as much.

I may see one reason you are having trouble with 3D06, you have 4 sticks of ram...AMD CPU's will only run at a 2T command rate with 4 sticks, try removing two of them and set it to run with 1T, it will help your score a bit (Just for testing purposes, you want to go back to 4 sticks for gaming)

2T is also known as CPC off (Command per Clock) and 1T is CPC on!

I generally see about a 20% difference in scores between these two settings in a Super Pi 1mb test...

As far as the wiring goes, very nice job, the realy nutty people will go as far as to remove the ends of the cables, and drill holes in strategic places, and then route them behind the Mobo tray...sometimes they will even lengthen or make the cables shorter.

One guy even used some stainless steel tubing (Or was it braided stainless steel hose?) to hide his wiring!

I have that case, I think if it wasn't in use, you should tuck the cabling thats along the drive cages into that space between them and the side panel behind them. I use that space for inverters and the like right now...

Quote: Originally Posted by eascarface Very nice rig. And just as Lokie says there's no such thing as overkill. You might also look into reverse mounting your hard drives so even the sata cables don't show as much.

O.o..never really thought about reverse mounting the drives. Maybe I'll give it a whirl if I take it apart again anytime soon.

Quote: Originally Posted by $SOLID$ Necro I may see one reason you are having trouble with 3D06, you have 4 sticks of ram...AMD CPU's will only run at a 2T command rate with 4 sticks, try removing two of them and set it to run with 1T, it will help your score a bit (Just for testing purposes, you want to go back to 4 sticks for gaming) 2T is also known as CPC off (Command per Clock) and 1T is CPC on! I generally see about a 20% difference in scores between these two settings in a Super Pi 1mb test... As far as the wiring goes, very nice job, the realy nutty people will go as far as to remove the ends of the cables, and drill holes in strategic places, and then route them behind the Mobo tray...sometimes they will even lengthen or make the cables shorter. One guy even used some stainless steel tubing (Or was it braided stainless steel hose?) to hide his wiring!

I'll try taking out a few sticks and see what happens. This RAM is rated at 2-2-2-5 1T, but with 4 sticks of the stuff it refuses to work at 1T so it's been running at 2T the whole time.

Quote: Originally Posted by Gzim I have that case, I think if it wasn't in use, you should tuck the cabling thats along the drive cages into that space between them and the side panel behind them. I use that space for inverters and the like right now...

Currently most of the loose wires are budled up behind the hard drive cage. I also have the inverter for my single blue CCFL back there. I had a second but while trying to move it I accidentally smacked it hard into the case and broke it :-(

A fine display of wire management. Way to go!

Quote: Originally Posted by crash_maxed I'll try taking out a few sticks and see what happens. This RAM is rated at 2-2-2-5 1T, but with 4 sticks of the stuff it refuses to work at 1T so it's been running at 2T the whole time.

It's not the RAM's fault, but more of the processor's fault. DFI made some sort of workaround, but for the most part the best way to go is 2 sticks of 512MB or 1GB from a matched pair kit.

Good job on the wires.

Quote: Originally Posted by Hibiki It's not the RAM's fault, but more of the processor's fault. DFI made some sort of workaround, but for the most part the best way to go is 2 sticks of 512MB or 1GB from a matched pair kit. Good job on the wires.

Yeah...I wouldv'e gone 2x1GB, but I had gotten one pair of the sticks a while back and when I upgraded to 2GB I just got another pair instead of throwing this stuff out and buying new stuff.

Quote: Originally Posted by crash_maxed Yeah...I wouldv'e gone 2x1GB, but I had gotten one pair of the sticks a while back and when I upgraded to 2GB I just got another pair instead of throwing this stuff out and buying new stuff.

I know its a little bit off topic but how do you like that cpu cooler?. What temps do you get? and is it fanless?

Quote: Originally Posted by degu22 I know its a little bit off topic but how do you like that cpu cooler?. What temps do you get? and is it fanless?

There's a 120mm fan tucked on the inside of the cooler. I'm running a different fan than the stock one (stock fan isn't too great...broke quite fast) at around 1600rpm and right now I'm getting max load temps of 41C. It's a really good cooler and I'd recommend it to anyone. Trouble is it is quite sought after so places like Newegg are constantly out of stock of this item. You could run this fanless probably if you had good enough case airflow. I actually ran tests to see how hot my case would get in the event that EVERY fan failed (omfg how unlikely is that). I covered all the holes in my case and turned all but the PSU fan off and I was still only hitting 60C at max CPU load after 20 minutes of burn-in.

Lol man you did better then me.. i tried to manage today.

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the fan in the window of the thermaltake tsunami really bugged me!

eww....that's quite possibly the stupidest place from a mobo maker to put the mobo power connector.

Looks VERY tidy!! Good job man.. I just finished mine up a few days ago.. And then my ram went on me and had to rma it and now im sitting here with no pc.. Im stuck using a OLD Crap rig of my friends LOL






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very nice ...I'd go watercooling if I had the money or sound was actually an issue. My comp isn't exactly quiet...but it's stays nice and cool since I run the fans a bit high.