Ok so check out my the link to my rig located in my sig. I need to figure out whether or not I can use this case for watercooling. Yes it is kinda small for this setup, it is a "mid tower" with 3x5.25 bays. I have seen things like that Koolace setup you mount on the top of your case, but it looks kinda gay.

Any ideas? Please give visual examples if possiable

FYI - SPACE IS THE ISSUE IN THIS RIG!

are those side fans intake or exhaust
if there intake you could put your rad on one of those
or infact you could put a series of 3 80mm rads on there

get the rads with 10mm OD hossing and the rest with 1/2" od then when it comes to the rads use a spliter and then rejoin them with another back into the 1/2"

otherwise if you chose to do that you could run them in serial you know one into the other dont know which would be more effective

depends what you wana do realy

theres no point in givving yourself more work to do what you can do with less

say you wanted to just cool your cpu

after you find somewhere to put your pump/res you could sort it out that way

it all depends on how much you wana put in and cool

failing that there are things like http://www.coolermaster.com/index.ph...C-U01+AQUAGATE
and
http://www.bigbruin.com/reviews/titan-twc-a04/

there are more things you can do
it all depends how durt you wana get your hands

the real expert to ask would be antim

Quote: Originally Posted by FuRI0 are those side fans intake or exhaust if there intake you could put your rad on one of those or infact you could put a series of 3 80mm rads on there get the rads with 10mm OD hossing and the rest with 1/2" od then when it comes to the rads use a spliter and then rejoin them with another back into the 1/2"

The three side 80mm fans are intake, but they are these ultra quiet fans that don't have enough CFM to do this. I have gotten some ideas from other people and this is what I am thinking as of now.

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Any thoughts on the flow rate of this setup?

I'm no pro but if someone could back up this theory,

For the best results i'd say use gravity to your advantage, See how right when the water leaves the pump it has to push it up to the cpu. I'd think u'd get more water flowing with less strain if you had the pump up higher. But u might be fine like that, just what i thought.

you cooling wont be all that effective with a single fan rad

and i dont think that is the case m8

the fluids are under pressure so it falls under hydrolic and phenumatic theriums and properties
the gain will be v small if there is any

personaly i would put the res beside the pump or basicialy have it as the closest thing in the loop

i would also have the rad just after the pump b4 the cpu then onward

but realy as i have said a single rad isn't going to cut it

plus the 92mm fan on a 120mm rad isn't going to realy force the air through

unless you mount the rad behind the intake with a 120mm behind it sorta like a push-pull system
but that will make you 92mm loader as it will be spining faster to keep up with the air from the 120

this is what i would personaly do in you situation

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The gravity aspect of this setup was kinda bouncing around in the back of my mind. It makes total sense when you look at it.

FuRiO:
Unfourtantly that setup with the RAD sitting topmounted is not an option. There is barely enough space to get that 80mm fan in, there is about < .5 " of space between both the CDrom and the PSU. I don't see the point of putting it, plus it would be loud via the 2 80mm.

Honestly with this case as it is, the only option is to have the RAD sitting by that front blowhole.

New Ideas:
Take the 92mm off and get a 92 -> 120 fan bracket converter thingy. This would make a 120 suck out of that front 92mm port, which can NOT be made any bigger than it is. Then have a 120 on the back of the rad, doing a pull off the front fan. This COULD create some good pressure via that bracket, sort of like a velocity stack type idea.

Mabey with this sitting on that top 80mm exhaust as a SECOUND radiator in addition to the front one would work. I will have to measure it to see if it would fit..

http://www.dangerdenstore.com/produc...&cat=72&page=1

Hmm personally i have 2x 80mm BI Micros and only the first one Dissipates any real heat. The second comes after the pump to kill any pump heat and it blows ambient air.... Yeah i have 28CFM fans blowing on them but its all about cooling, if you have a rheostat get the higher CFM fans and just tune them for heat. Also the gravity thing is about pointless when you figure how much of a drop/rise factor you have in a case, not to mention the high PSI they run. A DD5/swifty650 pump will run to 50PSI your car runs at 15PSI...

Also take into account the cooler the water is when it hits your CPU and Pump the better it cools and the longer each of those components last. Heat kills anything including Fans, so i would suggest for fan life you don't setup your fan to pull the exhaust over it and then push that into your case as then your generating more heat inside the case. which is harder on your other components make that front blowhole an exhaust and get that heat out... if thats where your rad is.

Here's my two cents........

First off ditch the reservior......They are prone to crack at the ports and i just found that out recently with my reservoir. Im going to have to revamp my loop soon before the leaking gets too bad. It's just slightly dripping now. Thank god for nonconduvtive fluid.

This is what im going to use instead of a reservior.
http://www.dangerdenstore.com/produc...0&cat=6&page=1

As for your cooling loop it may look good on paper but its going to be a way different ballpark when it comes down to making it a reality. First off the pump doesnt do a straight 180 in and out of the pump. They come in 90 degree angles. So your going to have to bend the tubing to meet the front 120 rad. What type of tubing are you going to use? 3/8 or 1/2 inch? 1/2 inch is much harder to make closer turns without kinking.

Personally the rad in the front is a bad location. Plus the fans on the side panel are going to obstruct air flow coming out of the rad. Anyway you want to remove heat from the case not add to it.

I have to agree a single 120 rad isnt going to give you enough cooling to keep your cpu, gpu, northbridge cool enough to be worthy of watercooling. You'd be best at staying with air cooling without the extra expenses that come with watercooling.

Let me give you some real facts. If you like you can check out my worklog and see my loop. It's the executioner case mod.

Im cooling my cpu, gpu, and chipset with a dd5 pump with 1/2" tubing and a BXIII radiator with 3 120mm fans. How well do you think its cooling? As of right now ambient temperature in my room is 75 degrees. Sitting here typing this message at idle its running at 91 degrees.

I should metion at http://www.voyeurmods.com/index.php?...=2&prevstart=0
they sell brackets that allow you to attach your radiator to the top of your case. So i dont see a problem getting a bigger radiator and keeping the heat out of your case.

Definately the cpu is always cooled first then gpu then chipset. Id work on your tubing loop to make corrections.

I hope this help......

rockin'male