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Old 14-February-04, 11:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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How hot is too hot? I have a Xp 3000+, stock heatsink and processor fan, with 5 80mm fans 3 blowing in, 2 blowing out,. Anyway my comp runs around 40-42 most of the time but once i start playing games and stuff it can get up to 45-50. 50 being the hottest i ever seen it but i was playing a game and once i quit it and was just serfing the web it went back down to 39. So i was just wondering at what temp i should get worried at. Also do any of you know of any good heatsink and processor fan, that will reduce the temperture a good bit?
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Old 14-February-04, 11:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I start to panic when stuff starts to run anything over 130 degree F
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Old 14-February-04, 12:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well I think your good till about 55 celsius - thats where I would start worrying. I would replace that stock heatsink - for about $20 or less you could easy your mind alot.
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Old 14-February-04, 02:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I would go with a better HSF like one of the SLK series. I have the SLK 800U on my 2500+ and my temps under full load are in the low 30's.
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Old 14-February-04, 03:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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the Athlon XP thermal threshold, meaning FIRE!!!, is between 85-90c. but if you allow your chip to get that hot then i am going to revoke your AMD privedlege!
anything below 60c is safe.
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Old 28-March-04, 12:17 AM   #6 (permalink)
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basicly AMD rates stuff to 70C
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Old 28-March-04, 12:20 AM   #7 (permalink)
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i'm running an athlon 2500+ with all my components at stock speeds. my lowest recorded temp was 48. but normally it's around 50-51. after gaming it's around 53-54. so anythin below that (like your temps) would likely be pretty good. i still plan to get a better HSF though. because 50 is definitely not too great
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Old 28-March-04, 12:21 AM   #8 (permalink)
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If only my Voodoo 5 ran at 130*F I would be set, sometimes I think it's amazing the 3dfx 'Napalm' core GPU's last as long as they do on such crappy heatsinks.
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Old 28-March-04, 12:25 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Basically AMD rates there stuff to 70C

No you are wrong. this is pulled DIRECTLY from a AMD Athlon XP .PDF from AMD;s site. don't contradict me unless you have proof.
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Old 28-March-04, 07:15 AM   #10 (permalink)
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sorry i was just saying what i would keep mine below
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Old 28-March-04, 08:09 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Your system is running hotter than I like but as Chrome point's out your well below the limit. I would recommend the Swiftech MCX462-V heatsink if your going to replace your stock heatsink. I purchaced a SLK 600 when they 1st came out and it burnt a XP2000 before I realized the base was far from flat. I'm sure they have raised there standards but I only allow 1 strike. Period.
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Old 28-March-04, 10:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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sorry i was just saying what i would keep mine below

sorry for comming off like a d!ck...i was EXTREMLY tired when i posted that....and when i am tired the more of an a$$hole i become....no hard feelings?
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Old 28-March-04, 10:49 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I have question then, I always thought most AMD T-Breds B's and Bartons were rated for either 65 or 70c, and the MOBILE versions were the only ones rated for 90c.

Did I miss something Chrome? wich CPU's does that apply to? I've been babying my XP 2400+ then!!!!

EDIT: OOPS! I see I missed in the the fine print that covers the XP 2400 with 1.65v default...
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Old 28-March-04, 11:25 AM   #14 (permalink)
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understand/

if you run a cpu forever, even at sub zero temperatures, within a million year long period, it will make a mistake, maybe not even a big one, but it will...

normal heat, the cpu makes as many mistakes as normal...

add heat, and the cpus switching mechanisms begin to lose their accuracy...

add more heat, and they begin to blatantly misfire...

add more heat, and they begin to DIE...

add more heat, and you have a keychain...


metal migration, you increase voltage to your cpu, increase heat, and the atoms of the silicon begin ti vibrate rapidly..causing them to work their way into the surrounding insulating element, the closer the circuits get to each other, the closer you are to catastrophic failure, THIS is what i would be worried about, and yes, you will see this at temps above 65-70C, and voltages above 1.9v...

the moral of the story, instead of worrying about your maximum temp and being happy there, go, download a stupid program called Prime95, run it on a hot day for about 5 hours or overnight or while yer at work, if you come home and its still chugging, then hooray for you...as long as you are below 60C when you get home or wake up or sneak up on it...
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Old 28-March-04, 11:28 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Crap! my 2400+ idles at 58c and load is 67c...thats with the side off and no other fans in the case.
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Old 28-March-04, 11:38 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Crap! my 2400+ idles at 58c and load is 67c...thats with the side off and no other fans in the case.

those are what AMD considers to be "normal" temps, reason being, they WILL want you to have to replace that cpu someday....

and yeh, for the record, yer cpu...at those temps...is baking itself, maybe not fast, but it is...by the time it goes south, it will be time to upgrade anyway...its the ppl with the 70+ C that need to worry about a dead cpu within a week or two...provided the BIOS is reporting correct temperatures, and especially if they are like me and run it 24/7...
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Old 28-March-04, 11:50 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Well its overclocked 500Mhz so yeah...I think im going to pick up a better cooler becuase i can't even put my hand on my HS for 3 seconds on load.
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Old 28-March-04, 02:11 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Don't expect the Bios or Motherboard Monitor to give you an accurate temperture readout (they are a good indication of temperture fluctuation). On the average it will only be a few degrees +-. And that's on an average. Get a temperture probe with an LED read out and you'll see. Test your probe against a medical thermometer (like the one your mom used). You'll see that your probe is probably off a little to. But you'll know far off it is off and some can be adjusted. You can either tape the probe to the outside edge of the processor or you can use a pinhead of super glue (easily removed with acetone). I live in Florida so heat is a big problem, I've learned all of this the hard way.
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Old 07-April-04, 08:06 PM   #19 (permalink)
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on amd athlons xp's die temps are 85 to 90 c! i ran on a stock hsf on my 2500+ oc'ed to 3200+ an it ran at 42 idle 51 load. im going to say your safe till around 60 if u are higher u deff need to do something quick!
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