I'm currently using DVD shrink to make backups of legitimatly owned DVD's but it takes for ever even to do 1 DVD, does anyone know of any faster software?

You could always try DVD Decrypter. It's not supported anymore but I'm sure you still can find
a copy somewhere. It's free, btw...

TDR

The problem with DVD ripping is trying to do so without a dual layer disc, remember that single layer discs are 4.7GB and commercial DVDs and dual layer discs are more than 8GB.

The part that takes so long when ripping DVDs with DVD Shrink is the compression of 8GB of data onto a 4.7GB disc. Even DVD Decrypter can't help you avoid that.

The options you have are:
A) Use a faster burner, CPU, DVD disc, and RAM
B) Use DVD Decrypter, but keep the files on a hard disk, uncompressed.
C) Just rip the movie data, forego extra content and languages.
D) Use a dual layer disk.

All of the above options have the same goal: Avoid the long compression sequence. The second longest sequence is the burning sequence, which is dictated by the burner, the DVD disc, and your CPU and RAM.

I personally use DVD Shrink and I take only the main movie's (widescreen if possible) video data, one audio (in whatever language and surround sound method I desire) data, and the subtitle (in English) data.

I just stick with DVD Shrink. I tried some others out there but this one seems to do the best job for me anyways.

Cheers for the advice. I'll just stick with DVD shrink then cos it does get the job done which is more than can be said for a lot of software out there.

I usually use DVD Decrypter to decrypt the DVD and then DVD Decrypter to burn it, if the file is less than 4.7 GB. If it's larger than I'll use DVD Shrink to burn it.

Quote: Originally Posted by IronSerif I usually use DVD Decrypter to decrypt the DVD and then DVD Decrypter to burn it, if the file is less than 4.7 GB. If it's larger than I'll use DVD Shrink to burn it.

I use DVD Decrypter sometimes too, I guess I should of mentioned it. Good program sometimes it just seems to take longer it seems like??? Otherwise good program overall though!

Converting dvd's to avi's is a possibility if you don't mind a lack of menus.

Just while we're on the subject I am right in saying that making a backup of a dvd (movie) you own is illegal, aren'tI? Obviously discussing the theory of it isn't .

#To create a file out of those "home movies" that "you or your family made" use

#1)DVD Shrink to get the VOB file
#2)Use Gordian Knot(GK) or Auto Gordian Knot (AutoGK) to turn that huge VOB file into a nice little AVI

#Easy as pie well GK isn't easy but you can get best quality out of it

#AutoGK is easy but I am not sure of how good the quality is

#I hope that this helped out a little bit

Quote: Originally Posted by z0mbi3 Just while we're on the subject I am right in saying that making a backup of a dvd (movie) you own is illegal, aren'tI? Obviously discussing the theory of it isn't .

NO ITS NOT ILLEGAL TO BACK UP YOUR "OWNED" DVD'S. Enough said.

Quote: Originally Posted by z0mbi3 Just while we're on the subject I am right in saying that making a backup of a dvd (movie) you own is illegal, aren'tI? Obviously discussing the theory of it isn't .

First off, I am not a lawyer.

Many years ago, there was an act passed into law that allowed you to backup your own copy of stuff, cassettes to cassettes and LPs to cassettes since it was for your own "private" and "personal" usage. If I remember correctly, it's under some telecommunication act around 1984. (The more I think about it, I think it was one of those famous "paperclip" amendments)

It was labeled as allowing you to create backups from one media to another. It also made provision for you to record the radio...which is around the time when you started hearing "This broadcast is copyrig............". Now fast forward to the DCMA age. Supposedly the DCMA and Shrink-wrap EULAs *cancel* the previous law.


In our courts battles have been waged and fought whether the DCMA / EULA trump the '84 Law, vice versa, or none of the above. There's still no clear winner on it.


People think its hogwash to have contradicting laws. Here's another example for you. Freedom of Information Act and Right of Privcy. These two laws overlap on what information you can get on me and what you can't. Let's say you use FoIA to get my tax return...which has a lot of info. I can sue you under RoP with a civil lawsuit. We're both right so who is going to win? Easy...the lawyers.


So, can you legally backup your DVDs that you purchased...according to the '84 act, yes. According to holloywood, no. If you backup the DVD, sell / gift the DVD to someone else, and keep the burn...this will get you burn for the '84 act will no longer protect you. If you backup a DVD, sell / gift the backup to someone...this will also burn you.


Do you actually *own* that DVD or CD...according to hollywood, you're leasing it on non-terminating contract. However, they are not responsible for replacing the media if there is *any* problem with it.


Clear as mud?
Basically, there is a law that allows backing up what you own. Hollywood is upset by it. This does not give you the right to remix / edit / append / cut / alter / etc. (Those fall under a different law that I can't remember that the DCMA and EULA also contradict.)


By reading this post you agree to my EULA that states I am not responsible for what I post and can not be held accountable for it.

IF I am no longer accurate because of amended laws, etc, tell me / post something and I will change my post.

Quote: Originally Posted by TimberWolf First off, I am not a lawyer. Many years ago, there was an act passed into law that allowed you to backup your own copy of stuff, cassettes to cassettes and LPs to cassettes since it was for your own "private" and "personal" usage. If I remember correctly, it's under some telecommunication act around 1984. (The more I think about it, I think it was one of those famous "paperclip" amendments) It was labeled as allowing you to create backups from one media to another. It also made provision for you to record the radio...which is around the time when you started hearing "This broadcast is copyrig............". Now fast forward to the DCMA age. Supposedly the DCMA and Shrink-wrap EULAs *cancel* the previous law. In our courts battles have been waged and fought whether the DCMA / EULA trump the '84 Law, vice versa, or none of the above. There's still no clear winner on it. People think its hogwash to have contradicting laws. Here's another example for you. Freedom of Information Act and Right of Privcy. These two laws overlap on what information you can get on me and what you can't. Let's say you use FoIA to get my tax return...which has a lot of info. I can sue you under RoP with a civil lawsuit. We're both right so who is going to win? Easy...the lawyers. So, can you legally backup your DVDs that you purchased...according to the '84 act, yes. According to holloywood, no. If you backup the DVD, sell / gift the DVD to someone else, and keep the burn...this will get you burn for the '84 act will no longer protect you. If you backup a DVD, sell / gift the backup to someone...this will also burn you. Do you actually *own* that DVD or CD...according to hollywood, you're leasing it on non-terminating contract. However, they are not responsible for replacing the media if there is *any* problem with it. Clear as mud? Basically, there is a law that allows backing up what you own. Hollywood is upset by it. This does not give you the right to remix / edit / append / cut / alter / etc. (Those fall under a different law that I can't remember that the DCMA and EULA also contradict.) By reading this post you agree to my EULA that states I am not responsible for what I post and can not be held accountable for it. IF I am no longer accurate because of amended laws, etc, tell me / post something and I will change my post.

You clearly have to much time on your hands...lol....didn't you hear me when I said...."enough said"...lol

I didn't see your post until after I submitted mine.

Quote: Originally Posted by TimberWolf First off, I am not a lawyer. Many years ago, there was an act passed into law that allowed you to backup your own copy of stuff, cassettes to cassettes and LPs to cassettes since it was for your own "private" and "personal" usage. If I remember correctly, it's under some telecommunication act around 1984. (The more I think about it, I think it was one of those famous "paperclip" amendments) It was labeled as allowing you to create backups from one media to another. It also made provision for you to record the radio...which is around the time when you started hearing "This broadcast is copyrig............". Now fast forward to the DCMA age. Supposedly the DCMA and Shrink-wrap EULAs *cancel* the previous law. In our courts battles have been waged and fought whether the DCMA / EULA trump the '84 Law, vice versa, or none of the above. There's still no clear winner on it. People think its hogwash to have contradicting laws. Here's another example for you. Freedom of Information Act and Right of Privcy. These two laws overlap on what information you can get on me and what you can't. Let's say you use FoIA to get my tax return...which has a lot of info. I can sue you under RoP with a civil lawsuit. We're both right so who is going to win? Easy...the lawyers. Clear as mud? Basically, there is a law that allows backing up what you own. Hollywood is upset by it. This does not give you the right to remix / edit / append / cut / alter / etc. (Those fall under a different law that I can't remember that the DCMA and EULA also contradict.)

You mean this?

And this too?

I use the Pre-ban DVD X Copy Platinum combined with a number of other programs (Detection, decryption, bypass) to ensure backup my discs. I do it because discs are easily damaged and if even fixed by a disc repair kit remain perishable. I will not pay again for a luxury item I already purchased
(This excludes software)

Note: I am a staunch supporter of fair use doctrine-- I do not condone breaking any constitutional laws.

Quote: Originally Posted by PhLaKz'R You clearly have to much time on your hands...lol....didn't you hear me when I said...."enough said"...lol

I dunno your caps were pretty difficult to make out...now my ears kinda hurt

I think while its not strictly illegal for you American buddies it's definitley a grey area. No clue where I stand. Either way you don't see anyone getting busted over it.

Thanks for the links Seikatsu. Bling to you.

I use 2 programs one called DVD Cloner III and one called 1ClickDVDCopy, and they both have been very reliable to me with only 2 disc that i could not copy out of 500 movies i have copied. Of course you would have to buy them, but you can get the trial version for both of them if you would like to try them out.

I use pre-banned DVD Decrypter. It works great and has decrypted everything I've thrown at it.

Well I got the dvd down to a bunch of vob files and I do not know how to turn them into one big avi. Any help with this? I used dvd shrink. This will be nice to put some of my movies on my ipod.