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Old 26-August-06, 04:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default The fastest PC you'll ever need?

In times where dual core chips are out and insane clock speeds are low, I wonder how much anyone will ever need? I remember back in the early 90's people saying why would anyone need more than a 4 gig HD? In 10 years what specs do you expect the $500 PC to have?
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Old 26-August-06, 07:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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as the speed increases you find more uses for that speed. There can never be enough speed
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Old 26-August-06, 03:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Looks like kipman is a AMD fan all the way.Right On my brother!
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Old 26-August-06, 03:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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They Have 4gb Drives Now!?!?
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Old 26-August-06, 05:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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They Have 4gb Drives Now!?!?

man who care about 4Gb !!

Man my computer own more than 400 GB !!! not 4gb !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK this make me crazy

thanks and Good luck

BTW i have 100 GB Toshiba External Hard Disk !! more than internal 400 GB

Good luck
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Old 26-August-06, 05:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Well HDD's will only get bigger with Blu-ray and HD-DVD coming out. Also everything is goin digital, pictures movies, classes, grades, jobs...

Everything doubles in speed or size every 18 months, its someone's law of computers...
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Old 27-August-06, 03:41 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Well, the problem is eventually going to be diminishing returns.

When resolution of audio or video exceeds that of the viewer, there's no point in going higher.

For example, If the human eye has a maximum resolution, I'd expect all display technologies, hardware and video encoding to eventually rise to that standard as their maximum.

If I can't make out the difference between 2048x1536 and 4096x3072, why waste resources on rendering four times as many pixels?
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Old 27-August-06, 04:39 AM   #8 (permalink)
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The human eye has a maximum resolution of around 300dpi

The deal with making things bigger is not really to do with the human eye, but making it physically BIGGER.

Most monitors these days are up to about 1600x1200 max, so you gotta ask what is the point in a 7MP digital camera?

It so that image can be blown up to poster size and still be kept at 300dpi. Same goes for movies. Think 'PROJECTOR' and you start to see why high resolutions are good.

Also, as the digital thing gets more and mroe mainstream everyone will be getting more and mroe into editing this and that, zooming here and there. Once you start zooming in you want all the resolution you can gets your hands on lol

I think as Kipman says... you can never have enough speed! hehe


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Old 27-August-06, 06:52 AM   #9 (permalink)
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In ten years... Lots of cores, 16+ CPU Cores. And Solid State Harddrives will be standard.
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Old 27-August-06, 09:50 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Yeah, i remember the old school day's when my 486 packard hell had a 40 or 60mb (YES, MEGABYTE)hard drive in it. Kickin' back with your friends on the weekend, sliding some brewski's down and playing the original doom/wolfenstein. Ahhhhh..........twas the good life for its time. I remember talking about it with my friends saying well never run out of space with a 60mb hard drive.

Anyhow getting back on track here.......
In the next ten years, i would envision that hard drives will be obsolete and everything will be on a flash card storage device.

As for cpu's id say quad core will be the norm for $500 pc.

As of now i service pc's that use 512mb flash cards instead hard drives. They run a smaller embedded version of windows xp on the flash card.

Looking even more into the future.........
How about your operating system being sold on a flash card or embedded on a replaceable chip on the mainboard???

Just a few ideas that crossed my mind.......whether or not they become a reality is another story.
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Old 27-August-06, 10:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I am showing my age here a little, but I can still remember upgrading my Tandy color computer from 4 to 8 K RAM! And I had a tape recorder do load my games!

Around the same time, my Dad got a 256k hard drive for his computer. 256K! What the heck do you need that for? I even remember upgrading a Pentium 75mgz from 8 to 16megs of ram.

Now I have around 600Gigs of hard drive space, 1 Gig of system RAM, and 128 megs of RAM on my old Radeon 800XT.

I love it! Where we will be in the next 10 years I do not know, but the games keep on getting better, and the computers keep on getting better!

I am in for the ride!

Have a good one!

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Old 27-August-06, 10:33 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Well HDD's will only get bigger with Blu-ray and HD-DVD coming out. Also everything is goin digital, pictures movies, classes, grades, jobs...

Everything doubles in speed or size every 18 months, its someone's law of computers...

Moores Law. It states that every 18 months the number of transistors inside a IC increase exponentially.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law

There will be a point (maybe not now) that it will reach equilibrium. Everything will be equal, nothing will be greater or lesser.
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Old 28-August-06, 01:48 AM   #13 (permalink)
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There will be a point (maybe not now) that it will reach equilibrium. Everything will be equal, nothing will be greater or lesser.


that'll be a long long time from now, nano technology is in its infancy.
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Old 28-August-06, 03:34 AM   #14 (permalink)
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The human eye has a maximum resolution of around 300dpi

?! Isn't it distance dependent? I might make out 300dpi from a few inches, the 100 or so dpi of a monitor from 2-3 feet, and probably way less from greater distances.

I'd expect it's more a matter of a fixed total resolution. If the target's close, it means high DPI.

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Also, as the digital thing gets more and mroe mainstream everyone will be getting more and mroe into editing this and that, zooming here and there. Once you start zooming in you want all the resolution you can gets your hands on lol

Well, there's a difference between the level of accuracy used for temporary work, and for the final form. Much like the 8087 uses 80 bit floating point internally, and 32-bit externally. If the eye can only render 3000x2000, I wouldn't bother buying that 5000p HD-HD-HD-DVD player.

I'm personally interested in a wide range of nonequal cores on my CPU.

I'd expect one or two really meaty cores

One midrange core to run the OS

and a bunch of glorified 486 cores.

The small cores can be filled with all the dinky apps which normally bite at the main cores, like IM clients and network tools...for which a 486 at 100 percent capacity will be fine.

The ultimate goal is the elimination or massive reduction of task switching the big CPUs. A task switch may eat CPU time and blast the branch prediction and cache contents, so it causes greater damage than just the time spent on the other task.
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