"BOMBS!!!!"


Sounds like bombs, looks like bombs, must be bombs! You know what sounds like a bomb? A 110 STORY BUILDING COLLAPSING. The documentary cites people who were in the building and allegedly heard "explosions." Rooms on fire, rooms exploding and imploding, floors collapsing...you think that would sound like an "explosion"?! About the images - its the same idea. Even when a building is just on fire, let alone collapsing, there are huge pressure exchanges taking place. From images of the outside, we have NO IDEA what is going on in the inside. For all we know, inside the building has collapsed 30 floors below where the alleged 'explosion' is seen. I'm no expert on demolition, I'm just using common sense here.

There are countless other criticisms which have exposed the documentary as misinformed, it is not necessary to post them here. Take a look at this essay. Heres an example of yet more bashing of this video:

Quote: Originally Posted by 911research essay Mr. Avery declares that the flash is from a missile launched from the planes hitting the towers. Again, Mr. Avery’s refusal to think while listening to the beat of his music has served him ill. If the covert action operators were concerned that jet fuel needed some help to ignite because a 500 mph crash into a steel building were not incendiary enough, there are any number of means of planting the necessary explosives without creating a huge bulge in the profile of the plane. I will be brief. The “pod” or “missile” is an artifact of light and shadow reflecting from the fairings of the UA175. The fairings are the elongated ovular pods under each wing of a Boeing 767 into which the landing gear retract. They extend from roughly the point where the front of the wings join the plane to several feet behind where the back of the wings join the plane. It is a scandal of both “In Plane Site” and of “Loose Change” that neither mentions the existence of wing fairings.

So who made this crap? Lets take a little stroll to Wikipedia.

Quote: Originally Posted by Wikipedia The idea for the project was coined by Avery in May 2002 after a conversation with actor James Gandolfini in which Gandolfini told Avery If you want to be a successful director, you have to have something to say to the world. [4] Avery began writing a fictional story in which he and his friends discover that the events of September 11, 2001 were not the result of terrorist attacks but rather, orchestrated by the US government. While conducting research for the story, Avery became increasingly satisfied that his story was more factual than fictional so he abandoned the story idea and turned it into a documentary project.

Translation:

characters: effeminate older actor, effeminate young actor

effeminate young actor: My life is spiraling downwards and no one likes my films.
effeminate older actor: create enticing ideas (conspiracy theories) that will be asorbed by impressionable people (ie women and youth)
effeminate young actor: i'll write a pretty little story where two boys discover the world is run by evil men that have power, real jobs, "beliefs" and all that evil stuff!

How typical. But what do you expect from actors? Need I mention a recent event of similar nature?

Dont forget the thermite conspriacy on WTC. Just look up thermite on google, you'll get alot of hits on it. I havent read it myself, nor do I plan to.

There is also the Penatgon Conspiracy, and there was this awesome video in a MySpace I saw explaining that. It could be true, but yet no one knows.

Quote: Originally Posted by UndisputedChamp There is also the Penatgon Conspiracy, and there was this awesome video in a MySpace I saw explaining that. It could be true, but yet no one knows.

Ive seen many. Was it the one where they showed footage of a UFO? Or the one where they showed that it was a missle or something?

Quote: Originally Posted by Nerdz Ive seen many. Was it the one where they showed footage of a UFO? Or the one where they showed that it was a missle or something?

I'm sure he is referring to the missile one, which I was...somewhat captivated by...

That is, until I saw the wreckage of 93, and saw that there was NOTHING there that resembled a plane, just scrapnel and crater.

Two planes hit the twin towers.....They collapsed...people died....It was a terrorist attack....Osama Bin Laden took credit.....America lost some good people that day...No bombs...No conspiracys....Tragedy....
Nuff Said.

Some people are convinced the government is out to get them....

I dont believeeither of em, I just think these are cool to watch.

Quote: Originally Posted by Wafflesomd I dont believeeither of em, I just think these are cool to watch.

... I dont want to sound like to much of a jerk but i hope that you are not talking about the collapse of the Towers, cauze if you are i think that you and i need to have a talk somewhere, where people wont miss you for a while... if your talking about the wack job conspiracy videos, then ... Enjoy

Quote: Originally Posted by Digital-World Some people are convinced the government is out to get them....

And others are equalled convinced that it isn't. Just a thought...

Truth is, we'll never really know the truth.

Quote: Originally Posted by Nerdz Ive seen many. Was it the one where they showed footage of a UFO? Or the one where they showed that it was a missle or something?

No the video I saw on the Pentagon Conspiracy basically showed footage of the Penatgon at all angles and they explained how there should've been more damage done to the Pentagon. It was a crazy video.

I think I know about the video you are talking about. They show a UFO right next to the Twin Towers. I think this is the video you are talking about.

@ Denacopoliez, I think he is talking about the the conspiracy videos. They are interesting to watch, not that I am paranoid and believe that an F.B.I. agent is across the street.

Quote: Originally Posted by Dex And others are equalled convinced that it isn't. Just a thought... Truth is, we'll never really know the truth.

There are three sides to every story...Yours---Theirs----and the Truth....

I don't believe the government had anything to do with destroying the twin towers other then failing to heed the warnings of its information network....

Quote: Some people are convinced the government is out to get them....

I once saw a "documentary" on that on TV... it was about the "feeling" a lot of Americans have that
either/and/or/both the Government & some Agencies... "hide" certain things for the "general public"...
Wierd Things... Shocking Things... Alien Things.... (as I recall it was a BBC 'doc).

The documentary started with UFO's/Area 51 ... and it ended somewhere between the X-Files
and Independance Day (yup... Will Smith)... the success of these series/movie was mainly
based upon the general feeling of "distrust"......

Being from Europe it was quite amazing to me... I mean, here in the "Old World" there are 2 things we
never ever trust.... that is a Politician & a Lawyer... those 2 being "both sides of a coin"... There is just
a general feeling they have their own "agenda" .. hence we don't even think twice and don't really care...
it's just a "fact of life".... hence, series & films like the ones mentioned above are an 'oddity....here...

TDR

NO, I meant the video's, there are actually 2, there's a second loose change, I meant that I odnt believe those.

Quote: Originally Posted by denacopoliez ... I dont want to sound like to much of a jerk but i hope that you are not talking about the collapse of the Towers, cauze if you are i think that you and i need to have a talk somewhere, where people wont miss you for a while... if your talking about the wack job conspiracy videos, then ... Enjoy

Quote: Originally Posted by UndisputedChamp I think this is the video you are talking about.

Wow. I was nearly laughing the entire video. Soooo......What? If they rule the media and everything, why did they blow up the towers? Or better yet, if they rule the media, why is it everyone but FOX is liberal? Or is this just their attempt to make us feel like we have a voice? People are crazy, but people who believe this stuff baseless are more crazy...

The governemnt hides things from teh public no doubt about that, but honestly why kill thousands of people? I mean it makes no sense to anger a nation unless you want them to back you in doing a middle east clean up spreee.... I mean i support the war, i support bush There is enough leeway anyway to say they had nothing to do with it which is plane to the eye or the conspiracy theorists who say the government did it to get the nation to back bush in his future plans to uproot the middle east and dipose evil dicatators and secure the oil supplies from terrorist bombings.

search for loose change in google movies..theres an hour and a half long video aobut it...im convinced...just creepy

Quote: Originally Posted by Digital-World Two planes hit the twin towers.....They collapsed...people died....It was a terrorist attack....Osama Bin Laden took credit.....America lost some good people that day...No bombs...No conspiracys....Tragedy.... Nuff Said. Some people are convinced the government is out to get them....

You know, once when I was in 5th grade some fat boy bumped into me in the lunch room. When I looked down at my tray my ice cream sandwich was gone. I think the L.B. Johnson and J.Edgar Hoover were on the grassy knoll eating my ice cream sandwich.

Quote: Originally Posted by Foe You know, once when I was in 5th grade some fat boy bumped into me in the lunch room. When I looked down at my tray my ice cream sandwich was gone. I think the L.B. Johnson and J.Edgar Hoover were on the grassy knoll eating my ice cream sandwich.

Well said Foe :]

Concerning this Google video:

Checklist for conpiracy documentaries:

1. Obnoxious quote from the Matrix, accepting the movie as some sort of doctrine. Check.
2. Stealing ideas from pop-culture conspiracy books (knights of templar etc) - Check.
3. Stealing music from a higher-budget conspiracy film (loose change) and using windows movie maker to make your video - check.
4. Those evil religious and powerful peoples!!! Endless references to religious symbols and subjects - check.
5. 5 minutes of random images - check
6. poor english - check
7. stolen videos - check
8. "YOU HAVE BEEN KEPT FROM THE TRUTH! ALL YOUR PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY THE GOVERNMENT!!!" - check
9. "[the gov't] invented money" actually, it was invented 100s of years ago by merchants, simple people.
10. "YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!" check.

Typical anarchist, rebellious conspiracy BS. Do you know what Rome used to do to such people? They actually had punishments. There was a thorough torture process and the criminal was nailed or tied to a post and left to suffocate and die. Maybe that would knock some sense into these idiots. Or atleast some fear of their superiors who make it possible for them to come home every night and consume an entire jug of ice cream whilst creating conspiracy videos on windows movie maker.

Quote: Originally Posted by Triple8 search for loose change in google movies..theres an hour and a half long video aobut it...im convinced...just creepy

You mean this