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Old 25-July-05, 12:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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There are so many theories out there about Tupac. just read these if you havent already.

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Some people belive that Tupac faked his death and is still alive today. Many of these belivers belives that Tupac will return on the 13th september 2003, after been hiding for 7 years. Below are some of the theories:

Tupac died at the age of 25. (2+5=7)

Tupac was shot on Sept. 7th

Tupac survived the shooting through the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and died on the 13th. (7 Dayz)

Official time of Tupac's death was 4:03 p.m. (4+0+3=7)

Tha' Outlawz consisted of 7 members

In the video Toss It Up, Tupac breaks a mirror at the very end of the video. (7 Years of Bad Luck)

R U STILL DOWN was released on November 25th. Not only the age of his death, but 2+5=7.

Tupac's birthday is on the 16th. (1+6=7)

In the Intro of Makaveli DK 7 Day Theory, there are six gun shots going off, but when the songs starts, there's the 7th.

Tupac died on Friday the 13th.

The cover of Makaveli DK 7 Day Theory holds many hidden icons, and references.

Nothing on the Makaveli CD gives it's respect with R.I.P. Tupac.

The only witness who was going to step up and I.D. the shooter was Kadafi (Yafeu Fula) but he was shot a few months after Tupac.

In the first few seconds of the Makaveli song INTRO/BOMB FIRST, you can hear who is claimed to be Kadafi saying "Suge Shot Me"

Tupac always rapped and did videos on his death, and how his funeral would be. Why was he cremated?

In Richie Rich's album, "Seasoned Veteran," on the song called, "*****s Done Changed," Tupac says, "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word, but best believe that *****s gonna get what they deserve..." The album was released on the same day as, "The 7 Day Theory."

In the song, " Life of An Outlaw," an Outlaw says, "All For the street fame on how to be managed, to plan **** six months in advane to what we plotted, approved to go on swole, and now I got it..."

In the song, "Made *****s," on the, "Gang Related," and, "Supercop," soundtracks, Tupac says, "**** 'em all who can't understand my plot to get richer...Outlaw to the grave, a mutha****in' made *****..."

In E-40's duet with Tupac called,"Million Dollar Spot," Tupac states, "Fans can't understand my ghetto slang, so I evade and plot and plan a life of better things..."

In the song, "Ain't Hard 2 Find," Tupac says, "I heard rumors that I died, murdered in cold blood, tramatized pictures of me in my final states, you know mama cried, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted..."

In Tupac's song, "No More Pain," he says, "A heart of a soldier with the brains to teach a whole nation..." Is he referring to Jesus or Machiavelli?

The video, "I Ain't Mad At Cha, " was released only days after Tupac's, "death." It depicts Tupac being gunned down much of the way he was really shot.

"I Ain't Mad At Cha," is also track number 13 on, "All Eyez On Me," and Tupac died on Friday the 13

In the, "I Ain't Mad At Cha," video, Tupac dies. In his next video, "Toss It Up," his name is Makaveli.

In the, "Hail Mary," video, there is a gravestone that says, "Makaveli." It is cracked and there's a hole in front of it; this inplies that Makaveli rose from the dead.

In the,"Smile," video with Scarface, Tupac is crucified...Later he falls and stands up and it appears to be a double. Still, is this another image of resurection? Why make people so suspicious?

One of Machiavelli's books is, "Discourses Upon The First Ten Books Of Titus Livy," which it's claimed Tupac read in jail. In Book 2, Chapter XIII He says, "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to decieve..." This is very similar to verses in some of Tupac's songs.

Some say that Tupac modified the Machiavelli name because if you rearrange the letters, they spell, "Am Alive," or, "I Am Alive."

Machiavelli's books were called, "Book 1," and, "Book 2." The CD's of, "All Eyez On Me," are entitled the same

"Ambitionz as a Ridah," Verse 1: " Now these money hungry bitches gettin' suspicious, started plott'n and planin' on schemes..."

"Ambitionz as a Ridah," Verse 3: "payoff tha block, evade tha cops, 'cause I know they comin' for me, I been hesitant to reappear been away for years now I'm back...my adversaries been reduced to tears...

"White Man's World," 3rd verse:"Time so tell me why, you changed choosing new direction, in a blink of an eye, my time away just made perfection... Did you think I'd die, not gonna cry ..."

"Life of an Outlaw", Verse 2:"Who should I call when I'm shot and bleedin, indeed the possibility has part a chase in cream, dope got me hatin' fiends. Scheme wit my team, just a chosen few."

"Blasphemy", Verse 2:"I'm contemplating plots, wondering which door to go, brotha getting shot, coming back resurrected, it's just that raw ****, ***** check it..."

Did Bone Thugs N Harmony play a role in helping Tupac fake his death? In the, "Thug Luv," song, right before Tupac starts rapping, Bizzy can be heard in the background saying, "He's alive, he's alive, he's alive..."

Machiavelli's book, "the Art of War," is also the name of Bone's new album.

In the movie, "Gridlock'd," when Tupac and Roth are in the diner and they glance up at the menu, all the L's are upside down 7's.

In the movie, "Gang Related," Tupac and Belushi wait in room 7, and Tupac's badge number is 115; 1+1+5=7.

Is Kadafi really alive too? In, "Starin' At The World Through My Rearview," he says,"...as you riminis(sorry about spelling) wit your crew, smoke a blunt for me too, I'm starin' through your rearview..."

The song in which Tupac says he's alive, "Hold Ya Head," on the Makaveli CD, before Tupac begins rapping, a voice says, "Can you see him?" Another voice replies, "I see him." Then Tupac softly says, "I'm alive..."

... and a CNN ARTICLE



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Unexpected twist: Tupac Shakur alive and well

By Robert Spencer
For CNN.com


(CNN) -- Rap star Tupac Shakur appeared yesterday in Beverly Hills and casually strolled through the streets as if the rest of the world had forgotten his "murder" nearly nine years ago.

Almost out of thin air, famed rapper Tupac Shakur showed up yesterday afternoon at a shopping mall in Beverly Hills. Escorted by an entourage of some ten indivduals including ex-producer Suge Knight and fellow rapper Andre Young (aka Dr. Dre), Shakur began visiting the many high-end stores he once frequented during the peak of his fame in the mid-90s. He looked as if all was well while onlookers stared in disbelief at the "ghost" before them.

In a private conference held late last night, close friends of Shakur and a small handful of reporters were privy to information about his life since the 1996 incident.

When asked why he chose to mislead the world into thinking he was dead Shakur reflected for several seconds. "I never meant to hurt my fans or anyone else," Shakur said. "There were men out there that wanted my blood and the blood of those closest to me. I did this for them. It wasn't an easy decision for me, but it was a step I knew I had to take."

According to family members and friends of the rap star, Shakur had been in hiding in the Columbian city of Cali under the assumed name of Jamal Millwood. This and other developments in the story have led many to begin investigating lyrics such as "I'm goin' back to Cali" that apparently foretold his disappearance in 1996.

It now appears that Shakur continued releasing album after album including "All Eyez On Me," "The 7 Day Theory," and "Resurrection" from that tropical location.

Conspiracy theories that abounded after the rap star's untimely death now appear confirmed. Tupac Shakur said he plans to continue the legacy he started. He said he looks forward to returning to the spotlight where he says he belongs. "I want to show all my enemies that you can't keep me down. Here I am - Resurrected," he said.

CNN Bureau Chief Aaron Nichols contributed to this report








I still think he's dead but doesnt this stuff make you second think?
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Old 25-July-05, 12:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This stuff just makes me remember and think about the whole Elvis sightings, etc. I realize it's hard to let go of an idol or something like that, but these conspiracy theorists and people who have too much time on their hands, need to face reality.

There was no reason for him to fake his death. I was somewhat of a fan of his music in my younger and wilder days, but I firmly believe he is dead.

The only question on my mind is how long is the record company going to milk his name? I mean, the guy has put out what, three albums after his death? The only reason for this is because Tupac allegedly recorded one song every day. Hard to tell what they have on file if this is true.

Bottom line, he's dead, lol...
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Old 25-July-05, 12:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I think hes dead.
I will not think twice about his death.

Theres a picture on a site that i frequent, that would might be considered offensive to somebody, so i wont post it, but if you wanna see it, IM me or sumthing
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Old 25-July-05, 12:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Tupac is alive and well drinking margarettas in Mexico with Elvis. I've seen em both.
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Old 25-July-05, 12:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I think hes dead.
I will not think twice about his death.

Theres a picture on a site that i frequent, that would might be considered offensive to somebody, so i wont post it, but if you wanna see it, IM me or sumthing

Is it the picture of his autopsy or whatever?
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Old 25-July-05, 12:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
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This stuff just makes me remember and think about the whole Elvis sightings, etc. I realize it's hard to let go of an idol or something like that, but these conspiracy theorists and people who have too much time on their hands, need to face reality.

There was no reason for him to fake his death. I was somewhat of a fan of his music in my younger and wilder days, but I firmly believe he is dead.

The only question on my mind is how long is the record company going to milk his name? I mean, the guy has put out what, three albums after his death? The only reason for this is because Tupac allegedly recorded one song every day. Hard to tell what they have on file if this is true.

Bottom line, he's dead, lol...

he actually released 7... but this brings me to my next question... how did they get he's voice? same thing for notorious BIG.... he died in the middle of osme of his songs but yet somehow got his voice. technology can do this, but did it exist in '96?
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Old 25-July-05, 12:35 AM   #7 (permalink)
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SNOPE'D

...and yes, he's dead. That I am proof positive of.

As far as the songs go, do you realize how many songs an artist will write and record over their career? I'm literally talking about thousands. I've got a musician/actor friend that is pretty famous over in China (he's in Mina Jovavich's new movie, UltraViolet) and his catelog is well over 4,000 right now.

Rob

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You find the topic of Tupac's death disturbing? I think that this is more disturbing...LINK
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Old 25-July-05, 12:48 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I think hes both. A gangster ghost of some type.
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Old 25-July-05, 01:18 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Tupac is alive and well drinking margarettas in Mexico with Elvis. I've seen em both.

2 shots of Sotch, 3 Miller High Life's, and a Yager Bomb or 2 and I am speaking to their mothers...

P.S He is still alive. His song Changes is probally one of my most favorite songs.
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Old 25-July-05, 01:22 AM   #10 (permalink)
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P.S He is still alive. His song Changes is probally one of my most favorite songs.

was that sarcasm (sorry if i read it wrong) or do you actually think he's alive? which 'theory' did it for you?

sorry.. im interested.
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Old 25-July-05, 01:22 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Tupac is alive and well drinking margarettas in Mexico with Elvis. I've seen em both.

I can't vouch for for Tupac but I was with you when you saw Elvis. NoSlak was there too.
Oh, and I buried Paul.
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Old 25-July-05, 01:24 AM   #12 (permalink)
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What or who is Tupac ?????
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Old 25-July-05, 01:32 AM   #13 (permalink)
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are you serious noslak? tupac was a famous rapper who had a very highly publiciced tragic end to his life when he was shot in an apparent east coast-west coast rap diagreement that stemmed from lyrical battles he was having with other rappers (at least thats what i think it was, i know it had something to do with a big rivalry). either way, rumors abound that he staged the whole thing becasue he feared that he and his friends would actually be shot and is currently hiding somewhere still releasing albums. new tupac albums still come out, some think its cause he's still alive, im pretty sure its what rob said that he recorded tons of stuff that never made it to any of the albums he released during his life, as many artists do
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Old 25-July-05, 01:37 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Lyrical battle ???
IS that kinda like , I'm a poet and didn't even know it !; ?????
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Old 25-July-05, 01:49 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Pac is Dead folks i'm sorry to hurt feelings. Tupac was shot and killed in vegas. Suge knight wanted him gone, i find it strange that someone gets shot outside of suge's house then supposedly wears a bullet proof vest everywhere they went from then on, then decides to magically take it off and get shot. My thought process says suge told him to stop wearing the vest everything is safe, and sets up pac. I mean come on nobody likes suge knight, Nobody. Snoop even has a song dissing him.
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Old 25-July-05, 01:50 AM   #16 (permalink)
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The reason why Tupac released so many albums after his death was because of his mother. She released most of his pre-recorded songs even though Tupac did not think they were good enough for releasing. Greedy b!tch.

There was a rumour, fact, whatever, that when one of Tupac's close friends saw Tupac's body before the autopsy, he noticed that one of Tupac's tattoes were on the wrong arm. No one knows whether he's dead or alive. Since his(?) body was cremated almost right after he died, all the evidence is destroyed.

Honestly, who cares?
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Old 25-July-05, 01:52 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Lyrical battle ???
IS that kinda like , I'm a poet and didn't even know it !; ?????

naw, think more like eminem vs ja rule, where they write songs about how much each other sucks and how they want the other rapper to die and get shot

im gonna look really stupid if im wrong about the whole thing, but keep in mind i dont really know. thats just what ive picked up from various people here and there. i dont like or listen to rap, so i could care less. i dont consider it music, and i dont consider rappers musicians. writers, poets, maybe, but not musicians. name a rapper who knows the first thing about scales or music theory... they dont exist. therefore rappers are not musicians, and rap is not music. i respect it for what it is, but i just dont like it.
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Old 25-July-05, 02:44 AM   #18 (permalink)
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if he's alive that would be cool but if he's dead doesn't matter because i've been thinking that for ages
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WARNING
This is not for the faint at heart, but this will put an end to the debate. Tupac Shakur is dead.
http://www.celebritymorgue.com/tupac-shakur/
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This is not for the faint at heart, but this will put an end to the debate. Tupac Shakur is dead.
http://www.celebritymorgue.com/tupac-shakur/


Looks like he's "assumed room temperture" in that pic..........
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