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Old 06-May-05, 05:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Student suspended for taking call on cell phone from mom in Iraq

I understand that the school is just following policy but there has to be some exceptions for crying out loud!!! STORY DOWN BELOW......

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Old 06-May-05, 05:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That is dumb to me.
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Old 06-May-05, 05:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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a cell phone call to his mother who is a solider in Iraq

Wow dude thats F*cked up to suspend him for talking to his mother who is in iraq.
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Old 06-May-05, 05:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That is just a bunch of BS! The school system is so messed up.
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Old 06-May-05, 06:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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what crap, this is an instance where the punishment DOES NOT fit the crime.
but hey what do i know...
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Old 06-May-05, 06:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I read another article about this, the kid was suspended for swearing and being beligerant to the teacher who told him to hang up. Although from my own experience i doubt the teacher was nice about it in the first place. Two sides to every story...
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Old 06-May-05, 06:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I sent this link out earlier to a few folks on my IM client.. none of them are suitable for quoting here do to language restraints. But basicly - here's my thoughts on it - if I was that kid I'd have really been disruptive and at lest shot for an early summer vacation while informing school officials in a polite fashion the many bodily orifaces (and directions) they could shove their policy.
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Old 06-May-05, 06:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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he could have the pope and the president on a conference call and i still would have made him hang up..if you make an exception for him, whats to stop some kid from saying his mom or dad is calling from iraq when really it was his gf or bf..if kids are not supposed to be on the phone during school hours, then THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE PHONE..i'll side with the school on this one, sorry guys..

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Old 06-May-05, 06:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Napalm, how hard is it for a teacher to just pop on the phone for a second and see if it sounds like a mother or a teenager? Not hard.

Also, it was during lunch.. he wasn't disrupting anything at all; knowing teachers I'm sure she was an asshat about it.

I'm with lat here, early summer vacation sounds nice
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Old 06-May-05, 06:33 PM   #10 (permalink)
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he could have the pope and the president on a conference call and i still would have made him hang up..if you make an exception for him, whats to stop some kid from saying his mom or dad is calling from iraq when really it was his gf or bf..if kids are not supposed to be on the phone during school hours, then THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE PHONE..i'll side with the school on this one, sorry guys..

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Yes but the school officials even said the rule is to keep from text messaging test answers between students.
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Old 06-May-05, 06:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If the kid had calmly explained he was talking to his mother in Iraq, I'm sure that the official would have made an exception. But the more stories I've read on this the more it suggests that the kid went off immediately on the school official. He hung the phone up and kept going off. People need to get the full story before they jump on a side.
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Old 06-May-05, 07:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
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It just makes me wonder why his phone was on during school hours?

EDIT: The entire title of the thread and article is misleading. The kid wasn't suspended for taking the call. He was suspended for being defiant and disorderly. There just wouldn't be any response to an article titled,"Student Suspended for Being Defiant and Disorderly!"

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Old 06-May-05, 07:38 PM   #13 (permalink)
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My phone is on 24/7, vibrate unless I forget, but when my phone goes off during class, I understand and accept that it's my fault. However, though I don't know the specific details of this situation, this situation warrants special consideration. I probably would have gotten disorderly and warranted the suspension, but I can get set off. As for phones being on, last time I had an emergency, grandfather had a heart attack, my phone was off, and I was uninformed. My cell phone is for emergencies.
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Old 06-May-05, 07:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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and they say the french are cowards . sounds like mr francois really stood up against the school cell phone natzi's (pun intended ). what can you say except c'est la vie.
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Old 06-May-05, 07:52 PM   #15 (permalink)
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"Kevin got defiant and disorderly,'' Parham said. "When a kid becomes out of control like that they can either be arrested or suspended for 10 days. Now being that his mother is in Iraq, we're not trying to cause her any undue hardship; he was suspended for 10 days."



the article did say that the kid went off on the school official. don't think some people were reading the article too closely.
anyways, if they didn't want to cause her undue hardship, couldn't they have just asked him to come to the office so he can have some private undisturbed time to talk to her or something? i think that if he's in trouble, she might be thinking about her son when she has other duties to perform. though she shou'd've known the school rules and should have assumed that his cell phone would be off . ..
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Old 06-May-05, 08:02 PM   #16 (permalink)
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though she shou'd've known the school rules and should have assumed that his cell phone would be off . ..
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That's a good plan if the military would allow 24/7 phone privilages while deployed. .... Ohh well get gets his summer vacation early - his school is currently getting harrassed rather well (reuters released this story with links to the school's contact inform). I think he's definately getting the better end of the deal currently.
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Old 06-May-05, 08:06 PM   #17 (permalink)
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If the kid had calmly explained he was talking to his mother in Iraq, I'm sure that the official would have made an exception. But the more stories I've read on this the more it suggests that the kid went off immediately on the school official. He hung the phone up and kept going off. People need to get the full story before they jump on a side.

I've also heard similar recounts of the story. The school officials were stressing that the suspension was due to the abusive behavior, not the phone call itself.

The sad thing is, if the kid could have kept his cool and done what BA suggested, he could have kept talking to his mom even it the teacher didn't like it. Sure he may have still faced disciplinary action, but if all he was guilty of was talking to his mom in Iraq (read: cordial to the school authority figures), then when the story broke he would very literally have the school officials by the short hairies in the court of public opinion.
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Old 06-May-05, 08:08 PM   #18 (permalink)
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She doesn't know when he is in or out of class, she is making the call when she can. The time difference alone can confuse anybody. Trust me, I spent enough time in that region to realize that you make a call whenever you can.

This is a big to-do about nothing. I am amazed it made CNN. Just goes to show you how the liberal media will do anything within their power to place authority in a bad light.

Based upon what I've read I've come to the conclusion that the kid was aggressively told that he could not have a cell phone call at that time, and he took great offense. The official probably came off as an asshole, but the kid hung up the phone and started to go off on the official. You cannot do that, he should have stayed on the line with his mother and explained his call to the official. Instead, he got in their face.

There is a saying about vinegar and honey. I get SOOO much more accomplished utilizing friends instead of making enemies.
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Old 06-May-05, 09:02 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I would have told the teacher kindly to S my D and walked away. If it was my mom in iraq i wouldnt have hung up, i would have kept on talking.
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Old 06-May-05, 10:26 PM   #20 (permalink)
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First off, the school system is showing it's ultimate stupidity in this case. they say they allow the kids to have phones on the premisses, but they can't use them during school hours.

if they can't use them, why are they allowed to have them?

Second, i see no disorderly conduct in the young mans reactions. he did not threaten anyone, he did not become violent, he simply stated he was on the phone with his mother and was told that he can't talk to her.
I don't care what country your mother is in, when she calls, you answer, period. The school system has absolutley no right to tell a student that they are not allowed to speak with thier parents during school hours.

if you ask me it is the teacher and the school systems' wrong doing. As well, i'm willing to bet that any staff member of the school or the school board will take time during work to answer the phone when thier mother calls.
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