Audiophiles are the stupidest people on earth.

Cyno01 · 23-January-05, 03:30 AM

I'll take my 256 kb/s MP3s and $50 speakers/$70 headphones over this or this any day.

Enko · 23-January-05, 03:33 AM

jeesh those are some insane prices for just a cable ($1,200) and a control knob ($485)!!

Darksamurai · 23-January-05, 03:43 AM

That cable probably cost 20 bucks to manufacture... the knobs, 2 dollars...

Ahhhhh, capitolism...

Anyway... I love clean audio, but I don't think I'd spent 500 bucks on a pair of knobs... I really just don't think I'd hear the difference... too much heavy metal has given me dain bramage.

Fatsobob · 23-January-05, 04:25 AM

i would rather carve my own know out of feces than pay for that much for a knob.
i took shop class and even i know how they manufacture those.
the baseballbat i made is proof that i passed shop class.

godfoot · 23-January-05, 04:35 AM

I'm an audiophile, but I am not stupid. I could make a "knob" myself.

$SOLID$ Necro · 23-January-05, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godfoot


	I could make a "knob" myself.

There's a joke here, but I'm gonna keep it to myself, I still want to be your friend...

godfoot · 23-January-05, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $SOLID$ Necro


	There's a joke here, but I'm gonna keep it to myself, I still want to be your friend...

Dang, and I purposely set myself up for that one and can't get no "love".

flounder405 · 23-January-05, 09:34 AM

Hey skippy before you go calling folks stupid for shelling out the cash for things like that you better do your research first.
I will agree the knobs are a little outrageous but the theory behind those is to take away the metal that causes standing waves. Cables over a grand has been a controversy for many years but did you see the materials it made out of? Next thing you know you will be posting about how '" stupid " audiophiles are for spending 2 grand on a cartidge.
Tell you what I will personally put up my upper "midfi" system to your over compressed mp3 player and non imaged headphones any day of the week,and you can tell me wich sounds better. Bottom line you get what you pay for. Bet you sure dont buy those noname ultra special harddrives and cc do deck your rig out do you.....ya thought you didnt..

vf1000ride · 23-January-05, 11:26 AM

I would never spend a grand on one cable but I can honestly say I easily have $700 into the cables in my car. If you want to see an amplifier that needs stuff like that, check this thing out. http://www.sunfire.com/400SevenFrontPR.htm Seven channel amp, 400 watts rms per channel into each channel at 8 ohms. It can handle a 2 ohm load for limited time frames and will push 1600 watts PER channel. Thats 11,200 watts for a home stereo. I frigin want one.

Demon Made · 23-January-05, 11:57 AM

if im gunna buy a quality cable, il buy fiber. all my audio/theater equitment has the jacks, i just dont want to shell out $3+ a foot, and at that price, its just raw cable, i still need ends, and a crimper, and the ability to crimp it (workin on it)

0v3rki11 · 23-January-05, 11:59 AM

all i can say is i'm in the wrong business.

TYCOON · 23-January-05, 12:25 PM

yeah well, my acustic research firewire cable is way better sounding than your radio shack one...it has to be...it 40$ more...wait..what does fire wire have to do with sound..oh oh..

Twizted · 23-January-05, 12:40 PM

I see the point of the thread to put a eye on rediculously high priced audio equipment... but... I do take insult to your title of "Audiophiles are the Stupidest People on Earth" as your putting all audiophiles in this... I am a audiophile..... Just needed to state that......

j-dogg · 23-January-05, 12:52 PM

I bet normal people say the same thing about us when we spend 5 or 6 Benjamins on a videocard that will be obsolete in 2 or 3 years.

Amd4Me · 23-January-05, 01:08 PM

I once remeber seeing a $30 telephone cable(not sure of technical term) that had gold plating and other various "improvements" which was supposed to "dubble" 56k speeds.

4rm4g3dd0n · 23-January-05, 01:10 PM

man some people just dont get it, and while i agree that wooden knobs is probably overdoing it for 500$, perfect sound is a very difficult and expensive thing to obtain. honestly, the one thing i want more to get when i get older and get a job (going to law school so hopefully ill have the money for this eventually) is a cat mbx home theater... prices range from $300,000 to 8 million each. but DAMN they sound good. better than a concert. i would rather listen to a good dvd recording of a concert on a high end cat mbx theater with a big screen than go to the concert cause it will sound a lot better in the theater. i dunno man most people dont get it, kinda like blowing 6000$ on a computer or sub zero processor cooling, and i dont expect them to. but for me, sound is like another hobby, music is relaxing and i couldnt live without it, so i want it to be as good as possible, and it aint cheap. just my .02

Cyno01 · 23-January-05, 01:26 PM

Apologies to anyone i may have offended. I apreciate high end audio, my dad has a very nice system at home, and i can certanly hear the difference, but he uses stock knobs and radioshack cables. But i think i give those here who consider themselves audiophiles a bit more credit than spending $500 on a beechwood and brass knob thats being sold for probably being sold for 2500% profit... And oxygen free cables? Thats market speak for "its not corroded"...

4rm4g3dd0n · 23-January-05, 01:31 PM

cables do make a difference tho, i mean theres probably little to justify a 1200 dollar cable, but then again going back to the cat mbx theater, speakers that cost upwards of 50,000$ each (the big cat mbx towers are 85 grand a piece) are so clear that even the tiniest imperfections stand out, and if ur spending 85,000 on a speaker whats 1200 for a cable to it. i probably wouldnt spend that much on cabling cause ur right that does sound like a marketing gimmick, but cable quality is vital in keeping out noise and other things like that. automotive environments are even worse, cause theres a ton of outside interference that cables need to keep out. the rca's in my car were 75 each, and i had 20$ ones before i put those in and i really can tell a difference, theres less hiss in my speakers and less overall ground noise coming through (these are high quality 500$ a pair car speakers, again good enough that even subtle noise comes out and u can hear it)

Kiken · 23-January-05, 02:09 PM

me for one am a beginner audiophile.a guy i work with got me into it this past summer. so far ive converted all my home speakers over to B&W 's awsome sounding. next i swapped out my radioshack cables for kemper cables some of the best out there. next thing for me is my projection and screen damn things are expensive though. anyway not all audiophiles are dumb man takes a good ear and sense to hear and tell the difference between an radio shack cable and some made of high quality.

23-January-05, 03:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
Cyno01 Apex Tech God Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Whitewater, WI Posts: 3,869	Audiophiles are the stupidest people on earth. I'll take my 256 kb/s MP3s and $50 speakers/$70 headphones over this or this any day. __________________ Facebook me!

23-January-05, 03:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
Enko Apex Tech God Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 2,263	jeesh those are some insane prices for just a cable ($1,200) and a control knob ($485)!! __________________

23-January-05, 03:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
Darksamurai Sam-Hoe-rai N-Hoe-mad Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Helena, MT Posts: 5,977	That cable probably cost 20 bucks to manufacture... the knobs, 2 dollars... Ahhhhh, capitolism... Anyway... I love clean audio, but I don't think I'd spent 500 bucks on a pair of knobs... I really just don't think I'd hear the difference... too much heavy metal has given me dain bramage. __________________ “A good traveler has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving.” - Lao Tzu

23-January-05, 04:25 AM	#4 (permalink)
Fatsobob Apex's Squirrel Revolutionary Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,629	i would rather carve my own know out of feces than pay for that much for a knob. i took shop class and even i know how they manufacture those. the baseballbat i made is proof that i passed shop class. __________________ I may not post too often, but I will always be here.

23-January-05, 04:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
godfoot A George Orwell fan...sorta Join Date: May 2003 Location: "Truth is not determined by majority vote." Posts: 9,948	I'm an audiophile, but I am not stupid. I could make a "knob" myself. __________________

23-January-05, 09:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
flounder405 The Mack Daddy Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: the black hole aka tulsa okiehoma...i must escape again somehow Posts: 1,774	Hey skippy before you go calling folks stupid for shelling out the cash for things like that you better do your research first. I will agree the knobs are a little outrageous but the theory behind those is to take away the metal that causes standing waves. Cables over a grand has been a controversy for many years but did you see the materials it made out of? Next thing you know you will be posting about how '" stupid " audiophiles are for spending 2 grand on a cartidge. Tell you what I will personally put up my upper "midfi" system to your over compressed mp3 player and non imaged headphones any day of the week,and you can tell me wich sounds better. Bottom line you get what you pay for. Bet you sure dont buy those noname ultra special harddrives and cc do deck your rig out do you.....ya thought you didnt.. __________________ Holla!. flounder405 fo' sheezy. Filet-Hizzle cuz this is how we do it. Thanks PJ , Snoop and Gizoogle fer that one "Bowmp chick a bowmp bowmp oo-wa oo-wa a wawa," followed by the occasional "wocka wocka wocka wocka"

23-January-05, 11:26 AM	#9 (permalink)
vf1000ride Apex Elite Expert Tech Join Date: May 2003 Location: columbus, oh Posts: 1,412	I would never spend a grand on one cable but I can honestly say I easily have $700 into the cables in my car. If you want to see an amplifier that needs stuff like that, check this thing out. http://www.sunfire.com/400SevenFrontPR.htm Seven channel amp, 400 watts rms per channel into each channel at 8 ohms. It can handle a 2 ohm load for limited time frames and will push 1600 watts PER channel. Thats 11,200 watts for a home stereo. I frigin want one. __________________ 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.

23-January-05, 11:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
Demon Made Apex Tech Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Holt, MI Posts: 577	if im gunna buy a quality cable, il buy fiber. all my audio/theater equitment has the jacks, i just dont want to shell out $3+ a foot, and at that price, its just raw cable, i still need ends, and a crimper, and the ability to crimp it (workin on it) __________________ A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.

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0v3rki11 Cubic - Hoe Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: chained to a cubicle Posts: 1,426	all i can say is i'm in the wrong business. __________________ "Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of corporate, I shall fear no asshats from management." - Me

23-January-05, 12:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
TYCOON Apex Tech God Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: SCHOOLLLSSS Posts: 4,728	yeah well, my acustic research firewire cable is way better sounding than your radio shack one...it has to be...it 40$ more...wait..what does fire wire have to do with sound..oh oh..

23-January-05, 12:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
Twizted Editor/Reviewer/LED Guru Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Eau Claire, WI Posts: 3,345	I see the point of the thread to put a eye on rediculously high priced audio equipment... but... I do take insult to your title of "Audiophiles are the Stupidest People on Earth" as your putting all audiophiles in this... I am a audiophile..... Just needed to state that...... __________________

23-January-05, 12:52 PM	#14 (permalink)
j-dogg Mystical Schwinn Guru Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: West Melbourne, Fl-HOE-rida Posts: 8,821	I bet normal people say the same thing about us when we spend 5 or 6 Benjamins on a videocard that will be obsolete in 2 or 3 years. __________________

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Amd4Me Apex Master Tech Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Springfield Mass Posts: 388	I once remeber seeing a $30 telephone cable(not sure of technical term) that had gold plating and other various "improvements" which was supposed to "dubble" 56k speeds. __________________ "If whenever you feel small, useless, offended and depressed, rember you were once the fastest and most victorious sperm out of hundreds of millions..."

23-January-05, 01:10 PM	#16 (permalink)
4rm4g3dd0n Apex Elite Tech Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Texas A&M University Posts: 1,195	man some people just dont get it, and while i agree that wooden knobs is probably overdoing it for 500$, perfect sound is a very difficult and expensive thing to obtain. honestly, the one thing i want more to get when i get older and get a job (going to law school so hopefully ill have the money for this eventually) is a cat mbx home theater... prices range from $300,000 to 8 million each. but DAMN they sound good. better than a concert. i would rather listen to a good dvd recording of a concert on a high end cat mbx theater with a big screen than go to the concert cause it will sound a lot better in the theater. i dunno man most people dont get it, kinda like blowing 6000$ on a computer or sub zero processor cooling, and i dont expect them to. but for me, sound is like another hobby, music is relaxing and i couldnt live without it, so i want it to be as good as possible, and it aint cheap. just my .02 __________________

23-January-05, 01:26 PM	#17 (permalink)
Cyno01 Apex Tech God Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Whitewater, WI Posts: 3,869	Apologies to anyone i may have offended. I apreciate high end audio, my dad has a very nice system at home, and i can certanly hear the difference, but he uses stock knobs and radioshack cables. But i think i give those here who consider themselves audiophiles a bit more credit than spending $500 on a beechwood and brass knob thats being sold for probably being sold for 2500% profit... And oxygen free cables? Thats market speak for "its not corroded"... __________________ Facebook me!

23-January-05, 01:31 PM	#18 (permalink)
4rm4g3dd0n Apex Elite Tech Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Texas A&M University Posts: 1,195	cables do make a difference tho, i mean theres probably little to justify a 1200 dollar cable, but then again going back to the cat mbx theater, speakers that cost upwards of 50,000$ each (the big cat mbx towers are 85 grand a piece) are so clear that even the tiniest imperfections stand out, and if ur spending 85,000 on a speaker whats 1200 for a cable to it. i probably wouldnt spend that much on cabling cause ur right that does sound like a marketing gimmick, but cable quality is vital in keeping out noise and other things like that. automotive environments are even worse, cause theres a ton of outside interference that cables need to keep out. the rca's in my car were 75 each, and i had 20$ ones before i put those in and i really can tell a difference, theres less hiss in my speakers and less overall ground noise coming through (these are high quality 500$ a pair car speakers, again good enough that even subtle noise comes out and u can hear it) __________________

23-January-05, 02:09 PM	#19 (permalink)
Kiken Apex Techie I Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: maine Posts: 66	me for one am a beginner audiophile.a guy i work with got me into it this past summer. so far ive converted all my home speakers over to B&W 's awsome sounding. next i swapped out my radioshack cables for kemper cables some of the best out there. next thing for me is my projection and screen damn things are expensive though. anyway not all audiophiles are dumb man takes a good ear and sense to hear and tell the difference between an radio shack cable and some made of high quality. __________________ life is nothing if its not hard

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