SFF Help !!!!

NoSlak · 02-September-09, 11:16 PM

So uh........ can someone recommend me parts to build one ?? Been like 2 years since I put my last comp together and am out of the loop !
I do not need top of the line fastest out there, just something above average, thanks !

THRiLL KiLL · 03-September-09, 09:01 AM

i guess we will need a bit more info..

what are you going to use this for?

media center? we can go for silent, and get a remote, with proper outputs

gaming? tho not impossible in sff, it can be tricky.

General powerhouse? amd or intel?

what kind of budget are you looking at.. and do you have a certin size we need to keep this below?

NoSlak · 03-September-09, 12:07 PM

Thanks bro.
Ok, I am moving a away for at least six months and will take my main rig with me . She uses it to surf and play solitaire but it is stable , no glitches bla bla bla.
I have an old Shuttle running an Xp2200 which is just way to old now to handle everything, Router, wireless phone, printer, fax....
When she moves up to where I am going however I will use the rig as a nice backup , I don't need to game on it but just want a fairly fast comp.
She has a lappy but it's for work and doesn't always seem to work as well as my rig.
The more silent the betterand again I will be using it a long time from now as a backup if that makes sense.
Thanks fellaricans.

THRiLL KiLL · 03-September-09, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoSlak


	Thanks bro. Ok, I am moving a away for at least six months and will take my main rig with me . She uses it to surf and play solitaire but it is stable , no glitches bla bla bla. I have an old Shuttle running an Xp2200 which is just way to old now to handle everything, Router, wireless phone, printer, fax.... When she moves up to where I am going however I will use the rig as a nice backup , I don't need to game on it but just want a fairly fast comp. She has a lappy but it's for work and doesn't always seem to work as well as my rig. The more silent the betterand again I will be using it a long time from now as a backup if that makes sense. Thanks fellaricans.

hehe, thanks for making it easy.

ill try to keep it below 500$ =)

THRiLL KiLL · 03-September-09, 02:01 PM

Shuttle SG33G5M-Deluxe Intel Socket T(LGA775) Intel Core 2 Quad / Core 2 Duo / Celeron 400 Intel G33 Fingerprint recognition ... - Retail

SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model SH-S222A - OEM

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

MSI NX8400GS-TD512EH GeForce 8400 GS 512MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail

OCZ SLI-Ready Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2N800SR4GK - Retail

Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E5200 - Retail

$508.94 Plus shipping

I know this is a bit more then you were looking for, but i was looking more for long term use.

this box has the ability to be a media center (with remote)

I added a video card, as the onboard one struggles abit in media center.

as for the video card, i wanted a fanless one (had to be silent) and it also needed to fit in a single slot (most dont). granted its not the best card on the market, but for the size and price it will work =)

xgeko2 · 03-September-09, 08:37 PM

You might want to consider something like this as well Newegg.com - ASRock ION 330 NVIDIA ION 2 x 240Pin NVIDIA ION graphics Black Barebone - Barebone Systems

Its basically a dual core atom machine with the nvidia ion graphics although i haven't herd much performance wise on these types of machines.

*edit* Just read up more on this and apparently the whole nvidia ion scheme is just the dual core atom cpu in combination with a geforce 9400 mobile but with 2gb of ddr2 a 320gb hdd and a slim dvd drive not bad for $360.

THRiLL KiLL · 03-September-09, 11:40 PM

size wise thats a good system it will be smaller then the shuttle. but on the other side of things, it lacks power.

NoSlak · 08-September-09, 11:51 AM

Thanks guys, sorry I didn't see the post but I was away in Seattle looking for a place to live.
Great replies and looks like I'll be building a comp soon instead of buyig my wife an E-machine !!!! ARGHHH!!!!!

EDIT: How about a new CPU ? on Newegg it says deactivated item :/

THRiLL KiLL · 08-September-09, 05:46 PM

Newegg.com - Intel Pentium E5300 2.6GHz 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops

seattle eh? where abouts in seattle are you looking to live, and where will you be working (city)

NoSlak · 09-September-09, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THRiLL KiLL


	Newegg.com - Intel Pentium E5300 2.6GHz 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops seattle eh? where abouts in seattle are you looking to live, and where will you be working (city)

Holy Crap !! hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahah
I just saw your location. That is so weird man.
I found a sweet one bedroom in Kent this past weekend. I will be going to Burien for about 6 months then will be working somewheres in Seattle proper but have no idea as to where yet. We were looking at homes this past weekend as well from Renton to Issaquah.( bout time we get a yard !)
Where you at in Seattle ?

godling · 09-September-09, 11:35 PM

I just purchased the following system, as outlined in my HTPC build thread (http://www.forumapex.com/project_wor...c_build.html):

Apex DM-318 MicroATX Slim case - $44.99
Gigabyte GA-E7AUM MicroATX mobo - $129.99
Intel E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz dual-core cpu - $64.99
Patriot Extreme Performance Gaming DDR2 (PC6400) 800mhz, 4 GB (2x2GB) - $43.99
Anyware GP-IR01BK Infrared Remote - $24.99

I can tell you the onboard video card for the mobo is a Geforce 9400, with 512 MB RAM dedicated. It's quite capable of handling my 720p display, and could probably up to a 1080p without much problem. The only difficulty I'm having with my media center right comes from the two parts I kept from previous builds: the DVD and the HDD. The DVD is so long, it prevents me from using the dual-channel RAM in two different channels, which has some impact to performance. This will eventually be replaced with a shorter, SATA drive for speed and the ability to update the RAM. The HDD is also an old (OLD) 80 GB PATA drive that is slowly dieing. Happily, I've only got the OS installed on it, as I'm waiting for my free copy of Win7 to arrive before I purchase a new HDD that can use the SATA ports and contain the 50+ movies digital movies I currently have on the external drive, and the digital editions I plan on making from the rest of my library.

The Anyware remote works perfectly with Win7 media center, too. Truly flawless. Not so good with XP, I'm told.

Total cost under $350 for the above parts, another $100 for planned upgrades.

-Jon

02-September-09, 11:16 PM		#1 (permalink)
NoSlak Gridiron	SFF Help !!!! So uh........ can someone recommend me parts to build one ?? Been like 2 years since I put my last comp together and am out of the loop ! I do not need top of the line fastest out there, just something above average, thanks !

03-September-09, 09:01 AM		#2 (permalink)
THRiLL KiLL PcApEX's PuNK ROckER	Re: SFF Help !!!! i guess we will need a bit more info.. what are you going to use this for? media center? we can go for silent, and get a remote, with proper outputs gaming? tho not impossible in sff, it can be tricky. General powerhouse? amd or intel? what kind of budget are you looking at.. and do you have a certin size we need to keep this below?

03-September-09, 12:07 PM		#3 (permalink)
NoSlak Gridiron	Re: SFF Help !!!! Thanks bro. Ok, I am moving a away for at least six months and will take my main rig with me . She uses it to surf and play solitaire but it is stable , no glitches bla bla bla. I have an old Shuttle running an Xp2200 which is just way to old now to handle everything, Router, wireless phone, printer, fax.... When she moves up to where I am going however I will use the rig as a nice backup , I don't need to game on it but just want a fairly fast comp. She has a lappy but it's for work and doesn't always seem to work as well as my rig. The more silent the betterand again I will be using it a long time from now as a backup if that makes sense. Thanks fellaricans.

03-September-09, 02:01 PM		#5 (permalink)
THRiLL KiLL PcApEX's PuNK ROckER	Re: SFF Help !!!! Shuttle SG33G5M-Deluxe Intel Socket T(LGA775) Intel Core 2 Quad / Core 2 Duo / Celeron 400 Intel G33 Fingerprint recognition ... - Retail SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model SH-S222A - OEM Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM MSI NX8400GS-TD512EH GeForce 8400 GS 512MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail OCZ SLI-Ready Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2N800SR4GK - Retail Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E5200 - Retail $508.94 Plus shipping I know this is a bit more then you were looking for, but i was looking more for long term use. this box has the ability to be a media center (with remote) I added a video card, as the onboard one struggles abit in media center. as for the video card, i wanted a fanless one (had to be silent) and it also needed to fit in a single slot (most dont). granted its not the best card on the market, but for the size and price it will work =)

03-September-09, 08:37 PM		#6 (permalink)
xgeko2 Apex Master Tech	Re: SFF Help !!!! You might want to consider something like this as well Newegg.com - ASRock ION 330 NVIDIA ION 2 x 240Pin NVIDIA ION graphics Black Barebone - Barebone Systems Its basically a dual core atom machine with the nvidia ion graphics although i haven't herd much performance wise on these types of machines. edit Just read up more on this and apparently the whole nvidia ion scheme is just the dual core atom cpu in combination with a geforce 9400 mobile but with 2gb of ddr2 a 320gb hdd and a slim dvd drive not bad for $360. Last edited by xgeko2; 03-September-09 at 08:42 PM..

03-September-09, 11:40 PM		#7 (permalink)
THRiLL KiLL PcApEX's PuNK ROckER	Re: SFF Help !!!! size wise thats a good system it will be smaller then the shuttle. but on the other side of things, it lacks power.

08-September-09, 11:51 AM		#8 (permalink)
NoSlak Gridiron	Re: SFF Help !!!! Thanks guys, sorry I didn't see the post but I was away in Seattle looking for a place to live. Great replies and looks like I'll be building a comp soon instead of buyig my wife an E-machine !!!! ARGHHH!!!!! EDIT: How about a new CPU ? on Newegg it says deactivated item :/

08-September-09, 05:46 PM		#9 (permalink)
THRiLL KiLL PcApEX's PuNK ROckER	Re: SFF Help !!!! Newegg.com - Intel Pentium E5300 2.6GHz 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops seattle eh? where abouts in seattle are you looking to live, and where will you be working (city)

09-September-09, 11:35 PM		#11 (permalink)
godling Apex Tech Maniac Supreme	Re: SFF Help !!!! I just purchased the following system, as outlined in my HTPC build thread (http://www.forumapex.com/project_wor...c_build.html): Apex DM-318 MicroATX Slim case - $44.99 Gigabyte GA-E7AUM MicroATX mobo - $129.99 Intel E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz dual-core cpu - $64.99 Patriot Extreme Performance Gaming DDR2 (PC6400) 800mhz, 4 GB (2x2GB) - $43.99 Anyware GP-IR01BK Infrared Remote - $24.99 I can tell you the onboard video card for the mobo is a Geforce 9400, with 512 MB RAM dedicated. It's quite capable of handling my 720p display, and could probably up to a 1080p without much problem. The only difficulty I'm having with my media center right comes from the two parts I kept from previous builds: the DVD and the HDD. The DVD is so long, it prevents me from using the dual-channel RAM in two different channels, which has some impact to performance. This will eventually be replaced with a shorter, SATA drive for speed and the ability to update the RAM. The HDD is also an old (OLD) 80 GB PATA drive that is slowly dieing. Happily, I've only got the OS installed on it, as I'm waiting for my free copy of Win7 to arrive before I purchase a new HDD that can use the SATA ports and contain the 50+ movies digital movies I currently have on the external drive, and the digital editions I plan on making from the rest of my library. The Anyware remote works perfectly with Win7 media center, too. Truly flawless. Not so good with XP, I'm told. Total cost under $350 for the above parts, another $100 for planned upgrades. -Jon

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